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13/4/2007 at 12:11pm
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Hi!

Fairly new to camping so need some advice please!

Have bought a Vango Diablo 600 for the 3 of us (2 adults, 1 x 12 year old & possibly a 12 year old friend!) - my query is that at most sites I've been to with a different tent or the site I'm booked into for our main trip (Gwithian Farm, Nr Hayle, Cornwall) the max pitch size is 10m x 10m to include tent & car! 

We've got a Picasso, so not a huge vehicle but what do I do if we can't fit on the pitch?!?

We're doing a home pitch this weekend to measure the actual size as Vango's sizes & the shop we bought from the sizes stated differ by a couple of feet!

Also, has anyone been to Gwithian Farm & would you recommend any particular pegs as we've so far only got the standard pegs that came with the tent.

All your advices gratefully received

 

 

 



13/4/2007 at 1:03pm
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Hi Krakinka, welcome to UKCampsite.
10m x 10m is plenty enough for your Vango & Picasso & you can't go wrong with Rob's Delta Pegs
Cheers,
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13/4/2007 at 1:55pm
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Thanks for your reply Spiny, must just be me panicking! 

I spent Easter weekend at a site in Mortehoe, N Devon & there's no way the Diablo 600 would have fitted on the pitch we were allocated let alone the car!  Fortunately it was just 2 of us so took my friends Outwell Twin Falls!

Sooo, Delta pegs - have looked at the link, how on earth do they work?!?

Sorry if I'm being daft but what bit of the Delta peg goes through the tent ring/webbing? & would you use Delta pegs at every point/guy rope or just on the main fly sheet fixings?

As I said I'm fairly new to camping & the Diablo 600 is the 1st ever tent I've owned so feeling very 'precious' about it!!



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I would agree that the pitch is big enough for your diablo 600

 



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13/4/2007 at 5:14pm
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"Official" pitch size for the Vango Diablo 600 is 8metres x 8.5 metres.  Info was given to me by a warden at a C&CC site from his list of tents.  Will fit on the pitch but need to check what clearance you must give next tent as this may impeded your size.

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13/4/2007 at 5:52pm
 Location: Wiltshire
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Thanks all for your responses. This is the info given to me by Vango :- The pitch size for the Diablo 600 is as follows- Length at longest point- 575cm Width at widest point-  805cm Area 22.5m sq
Hope this helps.
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Andrew
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Please respond to - aftersales at amg-group.co.uk

Mike J, when you say to check the clearance do you mean tent to tent or guy ropes? The pitch I was on at Easter was 10.5m x 7m so no way would we have fitted on that even without the car!

Spiny, have you ever had any problems?  How long have you had your Diablo 600?

What is a "usual" pitch size?  Am seriously considering a 2nd tent for a weekender so haven't got these problems, but want the Diablo for our 2 week hol in the summer (which fortunately is at a 10m x 10m pitch!)

Very confused!!



14/4/2007 at 6:42pm
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By clearance Mike means the space that you (and everyone else) may be required to leave at the edge of your pitch that joins on to someone else (usually side to side).   

You are often required to make sure your tent (excluding guy ropes) is no less than 3 metres inside the edge of your pitch. Your neighbour does the same and this means that there is six metres between your tents in the event of fire. It also gives a little bit of privacy.

So if you've got a pitch which is 10 metres wide you might only be able to pitch your tent on the middle 4 metres. Front to back is not usually an issue as there are usually accessways there.

There appears to be debate over whether this is a legal requirement or just "good housekeeping". In my opinion it's certainly a good practice that protects guests on the site.

"Open field" sites as said above don't have the same issues as the pitches aren't marked.

Edited to add - I'd imagine the sizes quoted to you by Vango don't include guy ropes?

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15/4/2007 at 8:01pm
 Location: Wiltshire
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Dear all

Thankyou for all of your very kind advices - we managed to pitch in our garden yesterday & as it was such a lovely evening actually spent the night in the tent! Only took 1.5 hours from start to finish - Fantastic for 1st go!  & far more room than either me or OH remembered from seeing it pitched at our local camping shop. 

Only problem is we forgot to measure it before we took it down

Guess we'll just have to suck it & see!

Thanks again

 



16/4/2007 at 4:11pm
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1.5 hours is a good first time effort and it will get faster the more you pitch it..........i think the pitch size of 10m x 10m will be big enough for the tent and car

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16/4/2007 at 8:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by thecampits on 16/4/2007

1i think the pitch size of 10m x 10m will be big enough for the tent and car

                      happy camping




Only if one has a very small car!


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16/4/2007 at 9:24pm
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Oh no Piglet you've really set the cat amongst the pidgeons now!! - I was prepared to wing it & now you've cast doubts again - WHAT AM I GONNA DO?!?  (We've got a Picasso by the way!)

Surely (I know!!!) there are hundreds of Diablo 600 owners out there - is this a huge problem?  Surely I'm not the only the only D600 owner who's gone through this?!?!

 



16/4/2007 at 9:42pm
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Hiya all

This is really interesting as we have just bought our first tent, a Vango Aspen 700 DLX and we too are worried about space........it seemed a good idea at the time????  I am sure both you and i will be fine, lol!!

G x



16/4/2007 at 10:04pm
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Hi gemdan143!

Always seems like a good idea at the time - bit like that last glass of vino!

OH was desperately against camping & only agreed if we had a tent that would fit our kingsize inflatable (guest) bed as he knew he could sleep on it  & a tent that he could stand upright in - so after viewing loads we settled on the D600, which by the way is fab! (apart, apparently from its size!!!!)

P'raps I'm focussing on a really minor point but most sites I've been to would definitely NOT fit our tent & car  .........& don't start on the car - we bought a new car, went for the Picasso thinking it would have heaps of room for the 3, sometimes 4 of us and got a roof box and I'm seriously considering having to get a trailer now as we're not gonna have enough room.........but that's another story!!!!

Let's hope we are both fine - else it'll be a hike to the car to get that necessary bit of kit that you just couldn't be bothered to unpack!!!

 

 

 



16/4/2007 at 10:21pm
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gemdan -  Blimey, I've just looked at the Vango website at your tent - IT'S HUGE!!!

Hope you've got a big car!!! our Diablo 600 takes up half our boot space alone!!!

Why aren't we able to travel through time & space & 'just arrive' in Cornwall ready to pitch!!!  lol

 

 



17/4/2007 at 1:49pm
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Sorry Krakinka, I forgot to check "Email Notify me of replies"
Here's our D600 along with car on a 10m square pitch at Skipsea Sands, no problems, just pitch as close to back corner of pitch as possible.


I've even managed to fit on the electric pitches at Flower of May in Filey, which I was told are only 6m pitches but the warden was non too pleased, and I won't be trying that again.

Have a look at this thread Sites accepting large tents for more info.

Hope this puts your mind at rest

Cheers,
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20/4/2007 at 11:03am
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Hi Spiny

Thanks for that - what a fab foto! We've now ordered a footprint groundsheet, so that should help us to position as far back on pitch as possible - just have to remember to leave enough room for the the guy ropes!

Will look at the link for sites accepting large tents for future expeditions.

Picking your brain - any tips on fitting the rising ground sheet in the porch area?!? - try as we might we can't suss it out!!! Is it just me????

Everyone, thanks all for your advices - can't believe how addictive this forum is!!!

Krakinka

 




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