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BUT AS I HAVE SAID, I DON'T LET IT GET TO THE LEVEL WHERE IT DISTURBS OTHER CAMPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm out of here, just expressed an opinion on noise and this is where it's led. There's a whole host of circumstances I'm not going into, but I like to think that not everyone immediately assumes that a defiant child is undisciplined.

good_in_tent,  you don't have to keep justifying yourself.  Here are two words for you to comfort yourself with, patronising and condescending. 

Now go and have a cup of tea or a glass of wine.