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30/8/2009 at 11:08am
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Quote: Originally posted by Rob Orr on 30/8/2009

I doubt many sites would have ground that hard.


Rob, come to the North of Scotland !


30/8/2009 at 11:13am
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Well, just returned yesterday from a windy holiday at Tregarton Park in cornwall. Wind wasn't too bad till early hours of wed morning. Then we got hit by what we were told was the back end of hurricane bill. The wind noise was unbelievable. I've never seen the tent blown so much. We got up the following morning fully expecting to be looking over a badly damaged tent. But no, our Gelert Lokon Vario 6 stood up amazingly well with no damage. I know this has been said before but I'm convinced we were saved from damage by the Delta's and I had just changed the standard cleats on the guy ropes for those fluorescent triangular shaped ones (cant remember the name) I ordered online. We were told at reception that quite a few campers had packed up and gone home early and some tents had collapsed. It's a shame, because the weather picked up a little after that. We carried on and had a great time.

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30/8/2009 at 11:22am
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I meant to check the box for getting email notifications on this thread but forgot - can anyone tell me if I can change the preference on this now ? - and how ???? 17

oh god just realised I can tick the box NOW. Doh 17 I really am dull sometimes, here goes...



30/8/2009 at 11:37am
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Gypsydoll, you're not dull, just a bit dim sometimes

As for pegs - go equipped for every eventuality. Long nails would have probably been fine for me the other day, unless the ground had become saturated over night in which case they wouldn't have held as the flint would have been able to move around. As it was I went for steel Atlas pegs (mega tough V angle pegs) that I could hammer through the flint and would also have provided ample holding power had the ground become wet. Normal hard pegs worked ok with a bit of jiggery pokery for the ground sheet. Going equipped for me was easy this time as I had just received an order from a UK manufactuer of several hundred pegs of different types on the morning we went. I'm glad, as the pegs supplied as standard with my tent wouldn't have made it past the first cm of ground!


30/8/2009 at 11:52am
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Quote: Originally posted by petemillis on 30/8/2009
Gypsydoll, you're not dull, just a bit dim sometimes

As for pegs - go equipped for every eventuality. Long nails would have probably been fine for me the other day, unless the ground had become saturated over night in which case they wouldn't have held as the flint would have been able to move around. As it was I went for steel Atlas pegs (mega tough V angle pegs) that I could hammer through the flint and would also have provided ample holding power had the ground become wet. Normal hard pegs worked ok with a bit of jiggery pokery for the ground sheet. Going equipped for me was easy this time as I had just received an order from a UK manufactuer of several hundred pegs of different types on the morning we went. I'm glad, as the pegs supplied as standard with my tent wouldn't have made it past the first cm of ground!

Thanks pete (..farty-pants-millis..17)

I will get OH to have a look at all this sometime, including the bitty somewhere on the site about Deltapegs which I don't think he's seen (I'm always hogging the pc)    He is a super-duper-practical/handy kind of person & will be able to see if any of this will be likely to work for us with the flipping rock-hard boulder-infested ground that seems always to be in our fav. kind of places. If he has some doubts/questions, or even a bright idea or two which may be of interest to others, I shall return (I do the communications side!)

Ta very much again. 17



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30/8/2009 at 3:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by petemillis on 30/8/2009
Going equipped for me was easy this time as I had just received an order from a UK manufactuer of several hundred pegs of different types on the morning we went.

Would any of the assorted pegs you received have been as effective as Delta in 'medium soil' though?

Delta pegs will effectively cover the whole mid-range from just under hardest to  just above softest soils.

 



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30/8/2009 at 4:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rob Orr on 30/8/2009
Quote: Originally posted by petemillis on 30/8/2009
Going equipped for me was easy this time as I had just received an order from a UK manufactuer of several hundred pegs of different types on the morning we went.

Would any of the assorted pegs you received have been as effective as Delta in 'medium soil' though?

Delta pegs will effectively cover the whole mid-range from just under hardest to  just above softest soils.

 



Probably depends on the depth of the soil Rob, and the depth of penetration of the peg. If the top soil is of medium firmness and deep then a Delta will most likely be better than a typical standard 6 inch peg. But round these parts where the top soil is typically very thin before hitting chalk and flint then I would expect that a 9 inch Atlas peg will be better than a Delta, purely because a 9 inch peg will be penetrating into hard ground - even taking into account the moment of force and all.

I know development has been carried out on the Deltas at Exeter Uni, but I wonder if it might be an interesting exercise to test performance of a range of pegs in different ground types - chalk Downland, loamy soil, clay soil, deep topsoil, shallow topsoil, wet conditions, dry conditions...all around the country. It would benefit everyone I should think.


30/8/2009 at 7:06pm
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It would be interesting to have these tests but I still think the vast majority of camp sites have an average kind of soil, not hard, not soft and in these soils Delta pegs out-perform pegs of similar depth and longer.

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31/8/2009 at 10:00am
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we've had nothing but wind on Anglesey for the last MONTH.And when its windy here,boy is it windy.its getting on my nerves.my daughter goes back to school weds.and she has only been able to play out about 3-4 days all hols as we've had rain with it.

its been more like winter for the last week,i thought this global warming was supposed to make it more like it is southern europe



31/8/2009 at 10:29am
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Sorry to hear the weather has been so bad on Anglesey. Don't know about global warming turning weather here into something like southern Europe - more likely the weather in the UK will get colder as the Gulf Stream reverses direction!


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31/8/2009 at 12:43pm
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Just got back..... survived (just).

Arrived at Little Kings early evening and started to pitch up our Horizon 8. Just started to peg the guy ropes when there was a almighty flash of lightening and the heavens openned. Toerrential rain! Cue baby in tent petrified and screaming, me and DH soaking wet and 6 year old thinking it was an amazing adventure lol!!! Finally got set up, then spent the rest of the night drying out and trying to warm up (we didn't have a EHU this time, so no heater, just lots of cuddles).

The pitch was very, very boggy due to the combo of rain and cars driving and churning it up, but not the campsite's fault.

Saturday was okay, stayed dry. But last night the wind picked right up and was blowing a gale (don't know how strong it was, but was fully expecting the tent to be damaged). I'm pleased to say that there was no damage at all to the tent, yay!

We now have a soaking wet tent and "sun" canopy to put up out the garden so we can put it away for the winter in a dry state.... All we need is a day of no rain, too much to ask????? xx


31/8/2009 at 12:52pm
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Oh, and I should have said, we learnt an important lesson this trip...... ALWAYS REMEMBER TO PACK WELLIES!!!


31/8/2009 at 6:34pm
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Annilou were off to tenby s wales (1st camping trip)
on internet 10 day forecast it says 40% chance of storms all week(including yesterday and today) so being cheeky have you been out in the garden all day applying factor 30 sipping a chilled wine(plz say YES and prove the weathermen wrong) many thanks Karla.


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31/8/2009 at 7:03pm
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Alas, no factor 30 (but still lots of wine ;-) ). I have been out in the garden, but trying to pitch the tent and dodge the rain showers lol! BUT we are a good hour east of Tenby so it may be nicer there.

Even if it does rain, Tenby is lovely and there's loads to do. One of my favourite places ever :-)

xxx


31/8/2009 at 7:07pm
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Got back from Norfolk yesterday. It was really windy every day from Wednesday till we packed up - thank god our Delta pegs arrived just before we left for Norfolk

Sue


31/8/2009 at 11:38pm
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Im starting to get nervous now.  Im due to head off on Thursda and just checked the weather reports, and its saying wind speeds of up to 39!!  Its a woodland site so Im hoping it will be a bit more sheltered, but i dont want to go with a new tent and have it destroyed first time out.  Not sure what to do now.



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