what is the best thing to use under your sig when camping on hard standing to stop the gravel from cutting your groundsheet,as lots of sights are now going this way.
It depends on what the hardstanding is covered with.Pea gravel is ok,but if it was ordinary gravel there is no way I would ever pitch a tent with a SIG,no matter what was underneath it
Some sites provide a kind of matting you lay down first.
------------- Sue & Phil
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were off to centenaryway in filey in a few weeks on a hard standing pitch will be our first time on hard standing so thinking of putting down a b&q type tarp first then the foot print on top of that.Also got some of those rubber mats from aldi that normally go in the awning so if needed can put them down in the tent.
Think that should be ok !!! if you havent got a footprint couple of tarps should be ok think thats what most people do
is it a hard standing pitch or is it an all weather pitch for a tent? There is a difference, a lot of sites are now putting in all weather pitches for tents and they have a different type of gravel that is supposed to be better for a tent with a sig
if it was me and I was pitching on an all weather pitch I would like something like an old fashioned canvas tarp down first or a real heavy duty PVC sheet
some of the sites now loan or rent you a sheet that you can put down before you pitch your tent
Unlike a solid sheet, it does not create a pool of water on it during wet weather. Therefore, packing the tent will be less wet. And feet/shoes/boots also remain drier.
It is noiseless, and stays put in a breeze, not tried really windy weather, but can be secured with suitable pegs if needed.
Kind regards James
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We were on AWP recently (pea gravel) and were a bit disappointed at the end of our 2 week stay to find a few small scrapes and tiny holes in our SIG where the legs of our campbed went, even though we had a footprint underneath. It wouldn't put us off having AWP again, but we would look to put something under our beds, maybe some carpet tiles or something that would lay flat in the boot of the car. Must admit the footprint was much cleaner than pitching on grass and we didn't feel guilty about leaving dead grass behind us.
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I think a good alternative for tent all weather pitches would be something like what the put down in children's playgrounds,or something like astro turf
Anyone else got any suggestions?
------------- Sue & Phil
--------------------- I Love My AeroBed
I avoid sites with gravel or hardstandings for tents like the plague!!! I have heard too many stories of people having their groundsheet ripped. I found a lovely site last week that I really wanted to stay on but I wouldnt just because of the gravel
Lets put down a few reasons for the increase in all weather pitches for tents, if you pitch a tent with a sewn in ground sheet on a grass pitch for a two day weekend or a three day weekend when you break camp there will be some yellowing and damage to the grass one week will see severe damage and a two week stay without moving your tent will pracitcally destroy the grass pitch making the almost unusable
A grass pitch has to be left empty for days to let it recover to a standard that makes it fit for use, if the pitch is reused the same day it will make matters far worse, constant use and heavy rain will make a grass pith a quagmire and it will on serve to upset campers as pitching in a mud bath is no fun
All weather pitches don’t need to be rested they can be vacated at 10.00am and reused at 12.00 noon with no detrimental effect to the pitch meaning that site owners can turn the pitches more regularly and they also stay in a good condition throughout the season
A few tips that have been suggested and are great if you have space to carry the extra protection required is to use a standard foot print and that will offer some protection a heavy PVC or a heavy duty tarp or a textarp which has string bonded into it making it ultra strong or best of all a true old fashioned cotton canvas tarp
I would pitch on an all weather pitch but would put additional protection under the bedroom pods that have sewn in ground sheets and then I would just put cheap tarps and picnic rugs in the living area
I went to a tent display a fortnight ago and they had tents pitched on pea gravel and the ground sheet in the Montana 6 that was on display was shredded to bits now it may have had thousands of happy feet tramping thought it but does show what all weather pitches can do to sig
I agree ForceTen with most of your comments.Its not very nice when you strike camp after a week or more and all the grass is yellow,but tbh what is the alternative.
I think it is up to the campsite owners to come up with satisfactory alternatives that in no way will damage your SIG or ZIG
------------- Sue & Phil
--------------------- I Love My AeroBed
The way some people are talking about grass pitches you would think it was free off charge,wont feel sorry for leaving a bit of grass damage,i'm quite certain owners incorporate damage costs in to there pitch fees,which are an average off 27 pound in the summer.
Sorry to digress slightly, but can those of you who've pitched on gravel enlighten me on how it actually feels ?
Must admit it does not appeal to us at all, always think it would feel uncomfortable. I hope not too many sites go this route anyway, grass is nice !
Although I do prefer grass it certainly wasn't uncomfortable, especially with the carpet down, and pretty level too. Didn't have any worries with muddy tarps or groundsheets when packing up and no moles or anything getting under the groundsheets. Whilst I must admit to preferring grass it certainly would not put me off a site I liked just because I was pitching on an AWP, I'd just take the necessary precautions.
------------- May/June - Spring Valley
Aug/Sept - Leekworth
As I've said before, I hope this gravel nonsense doesn't spread too much. For backpackers, they're a total no-no. My tent is too lightweight (and expensive) to put on gravel and I do not like the idea of sleeping on a Thermarest on gravel. Taking carpets or other items to mitigate the effect/damage is also not possible. Is there a listing of non-grass sites anywhere? So I can avoid.
The combined effect of rain and cars seem to damage grass sites more than any tent.
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