Quote: Originally posted by baz6359 on 28/9/2010
moonmummy i've spent more time than I care to remember sleeping in cold conditions down to -30 with wind chill and the one thing I'd never go with out is a roll mat, place it as the bottom layer then everything else on top.
Wind fair blows though Donny then
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Sorry I am a thick farmer but I got the HWB, and I like a bit of Turandot or Carman myself, but what is TLA's I thought it was an acronym.
While we are at it SWMBO?
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Quote: Originally posted by floggitt on 28/9/2010
Sorry I am a thick farmer but I got the HWB, and I like a bit of Turandot or Carman myself, but what is TLA's I thought it was an acronym.
While we are at it SWMBO?
Hi Floggitt!
I have just sent you an email. I was wondering where you were tonight. I have booked Hopleys - sort that thread out - no one is keeping track
Tracey
PS: I'm sure you know that Carmen is Bizet and not Puccini
Well, i have two roll mats, then a fleece and a good quality bag, i sleep in my birthday suit because i find turning over in the night is easier, if i wear clobber then it drags the bag with me and i end up wrapped in it, the only draw back to this is getting up in the night to use the porta potty, it gets damned chilly and the longer it takes the less you have to hold, thank god ther bag is still warm when i crawl back in
Quote... chihuahua got out of the sleeping bag and it was "your tiny Hund is frozen"
Liz wins the 'Pun Of The Week Award'
Quote...like something described in a certain opera aria!
It was your hand Rik? Are you telling us you're more Mimi than Rudolpho?
Turning back to the OP, Moon wrote: "...using our little Vango Omega lightweight ... used to having the chunky groundsheet and thick canvas of our Djakarta ... feel nervous about camping in such a flimsy little thing... "
I've just got home from a couple of days in Cumbria in just such a 'flimsy little thing' (my Vango Sigma 300) and despite the temperature on the first night dropping to just a few degrees above freezing by the early hours, I was warm as toast (the first night was under clear skies, the second night it clouded over and was much warmer).
I was pitched on dry-ish grass with no footprint (just the SIG) and set-up was: picnic blanket on the sig, thin foam roll mat, then SIM, then another roll mat; cheapie 2-season envelope bag to sleep in, second bag to unzip and use as a throw-over if needed.
Rik advises "The important thing is not to get cold in the first place" and that's very wise. I would add "don't get wet" - the combination of damp and cold is worse. I sat in my porch under the moon for ages but when I started to get chilly I went to bed. I keep my shirt and sweater on while I read for a few minutes - the headtorch is an essential in my camping kit - until the bag warmed up. By the time I was ready to sleep I was warm enough for just T-shirt, briefs and socks and stayed warm all night.
On the first night I used the second bag as a throw; the second night was warmer so I didn't.
That's just me. Everyone is different. Some feel the cold much more than others; and some people lose heat more easily than others.
I think it important to take too many spare layers rather than too few (clothes and bedding). You may not need the extras in the end but if you haven't packed them you don't have the choice
Quote: Originally posted by smashing69 on 28/9/2010
Quote: Originally posted by ginandtonic on 28/9/2010 Which self inflating mats do people use and think are warmest/comfiest? We have Gelert ones but not too comfy.
Warmest and most comfortable is the Pacific Outdoor Ether Thermo 6. Better on both counts than my Thermarest Prolite 3 - and much cheaper - can be had for under £30. Coupled with my 4 season down bag - a warm sleep assured and just over a kilo all in!
Can't believe just how many people appear to use uninsulated airbeds and then have to take a vast amount of duvets, fleece blankets to compensate.... seems a bit daft.
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LRF isn't an acronym, it's an abbreviation (or, arguably, an initialism). Nor is TLA, that's an abbreviation too.
The same applies to most of the other three-letter initialisms used online - LOL, BRB, OMG, WTF and so on.
Anzac, Flak, Nato, Quango, and Radar are acronyms.
Sorry Liz, just being pedantic (which is what I did for a living before I retired)
As to PC World (and other computer superstores) geek-speak (especially made-up terms like LRF) is dead handy to flummox the PFYs* who work in those places.
* The PFY is the assistant to the BOFH - any fans here on UKCS?
When I camp late or early in the season, even taking dog for walks. I wear the cragghoppers fleeced lined trousers, they are so warm, whats fab about them is that they are quick drying, keeps the wind out. I use the Nix Wax, Which I use for all my stuff, when washing. Base layer top with fleece, Then a soft shell jacket, which will block out the wind, also water repellent and quick drying. For head gear, I wear a winter buff, these are so versitile. They can be worn as a hat, scarve, or like a balaclava, they really do keep the whole of that area warm. espeacially the ears. ( I hate cold ears) If it really rains rather than drizzel, then the rain coat goes on over the lot. Oh yes gloves and nice winter walking socks, for extra warmth and for wickering is the thermal socks to go under they are like a baselayer sock. footwear a good pair of walking shoes. espeacially gore-tex type these will keep your feet dry.
For bed baselayers.
hope this will give you some ideas. Ive worn all that taking the dog for a walk on the beach, when it was really windy, cold and damp did'nt feel a thing.
we use a survival blanket couple of pound from go outdoors under our self inflating mats and we have never been cold and had frozen water container in the morning.
Hat is a must too
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Shower kids and dress in PJ's, socks, fleece hoodie.
Kids to run back to tent so as not to lose any heat!
Roll/wrap them in a fleece blanket and then put them in the sleeping bag!
I wrap a fleece blanket round myself towel style, i.e. tucked under my arms. Then I get into the sleeping bag. It means that if I have to get up to attend to the kids during the night, I've got a nice cosy blanket already round me.
(Of course you can get fleece sleeping bag liners but they are more expensive and less versatile I think than blankets)
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Topic: Things to keep us warm ?
