You've put my mind at rest! I think we'll get a fire blanket instead of an extinguisher and have a fire bucket.
the kettle and the making of toast will be only thing first thing because we are cereal family, so no fry ups.
Our evening cooking is normally on the BBQ outside (my DH's 'mans' BBQ a Weber Q220, so massive for the 3 of us ), so it might just be warming up some tinned potatoes for DD (she doesn't do jacket spuds!) or indeed pasta, so if the weather is good we will take the cooker rings outside so that we can do the BBQ and pasta cooking etc in one area.
I don't know why i'm panicking, I forgot that the cabanon doesn't have a SIG like our corado, so the CO, if any, should easily escape.
thanks for the confimation about the cooking window essentially always being 'open'.
I still haven't been able to put the tent up due to the weather, i'm itching to see what it looks like!
As CO² and CO are heavier than air (as well as Propane!) it sinks to the bottom. So, the best place for such a detector would be on the floor, really.
Butane and propane are heavier than air and sink to the floor, hence floor level vents in caravans. I am not sure about C02 but CO is almost the same if not slightly lighter than air and given that it is usually given off from a heat source and thus rises, it is recommended that CO detectors are placed high up.
Don't canvas tents with kitchen areas have mesh vents high up on the tent wall?
I stand corrected: CO is indeed lighter than air. the other three gases mentioned are heavier and need detection low to the ground.
Up until our last trip out, we had a folding camper, with the cooker inside - just used to open the plastic windows behind the cooker giving ventilation.
A lot of frame tents do not have sigs, so there is more ventilation in general.
Leaving aside the fire risk, I would not cook inside my nylon tents with sigs - I have a kitchen tent to cook in if I use one of them - or I would simply stand outside (holding a brolly over me if need be).
The designated kitchen area in a Cabanon frame tent has a ventilated window; thick, opaque, wipeable plastic in the lower part and tough mesh with a zip up outer cover on the top part. They are usually set on a vertical wall as part of a push-out kitchen area. If it's warm and dry you can roll up the outer cover completely, if it's raining you can peg it out on an angle using 2 x guys, so it can be open and provide ventilation whatever the weather.
It's the only type of tent I'd cook inside. With a SIG tent, even a Cabanon, a kitchen tent seems a better and safer option.
Most of what I would have commented on has already been posted, so I'll just add that I have always cooked in my nylon and canvas tents with no problems. I do use a CO detector, now they are available. I only worry about CO in the evenings, when tiredness can take over. If you are awake, the early warning signs (if you know them) will tell you there is a problem. Headache nausia etc.
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As CO² and CO are heavier than air (as well as Propane!) it sinks to the bottom. So, the best place for such a detector would be on the floor, really.
Butane and propane are heavier than air and sink to the floor, hence floor level vents in caravans. I am not sure about C02 but CO is almost the same if not slightly lighter than air and given that it is usually given off from a heat source and thus rises, it is recommended that CO detectors are placed high up.
Don't canvas tents with kitchen areas have mesh vents high up on the tent wall?
CO lighter than air monitor should be level or above but not to close to applaince as this may set off for no reason like smoke detector above a toaster lol
We use a Campingaz two ring cooker in our Andorra. Windows are open and I always turn the gas off BEFORE I switch the rings off - means all the gas in the hose is burnt off therefore cutting the risk of accidents.
Having just purchased a large tent, one of the plusses for me was being able to cook in it. The door was partially open when it rained, fully open when it was dry. My stove felt secure, the flame burnt much better out of the wind.
I was worried fat might splash, but as I said, the gas was easier to regulate indoors.
Not once was I concerned about CO or fire, as I felt I had *risk accesed* it sub conciously, just as I do when I cook at home.
Good point about caravans, same with folding campers & trailer tents.
Would be interested in finding out how many tent fires happened during cooking.
Funny thing, I was concerned with some children playing nearby with a ball & hitting the tent, but they could just as easily kicked it into the stove if I was outside.
I do not have a fire blanket, so will look on ebay right now.
I cook in our Andorra with a camping gaz chef (2 rings and grill) and have the gas fridge running too.
The Andorra's "kitchen" bit not only has the ventilated window, a separate ground sheet but it's also has a back door which can be opened for extra ventilation.
That said we also have an extinguisher in there and a fire blanket hung up with S hooks (Ikea) from the frame next to the cooker.
There have been two tragic instances of CO poisoning in tents over last winter. Both of these involved campers keeping warm my bringing disposable barbecues into their tent overnight, sealing the tent and then going to sleep.
No one to my fairly certain knowledge has keeled over from cooking on a butane ring in their tent. Ever. You just don't use the thing long enough.
I don't cook inside my tent but that's about fat splatter not CO poisoning.
Cook away, with normal precautions against fire.
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Most people dont have a CO detector in their kitchen. I have never heard of someone having CO poisioning in a home from a gas ring (mostly ovens and grills - 4 deaths last year over the millions who use gas cookers). Most people when they cook on a gas ring in their house dont open the windows. Yet many kitchens are smaller and less ventilated than a Cabanon tent. So dont worry about CO its only perhaps an issue in smaller SIG, nylon backpacker tents where your head when sleeping could be next to the stove. Perhaps fire is the main concern.
If you always use EHU why not use an Induction Hob, no fear of flame or gas then. They are much safer especially with children about as they only get hot when the pan is on. when you remove the pan the cooking heat goes off, so you don't have the worry of 'forgetting' to switch off the gas and leaving a bare flame unattended
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), so it might just be warming up some tinned potatoes for DD (she doesn't do jacket spuds!) or indeed pasta, so if the weather is good we will take the cooker rings outside so that we can do the BBQ and pasta cooking etc in one area.
