my theory exactly the majority of sensible citizens (gosh how american) far outweigh the trouble makers its about time we showed them IMO without going all Judge Dredd.
Good manners travel along way through society I am always courteous to those who deserve it, and would sorely hope they return the favour.
I had my UKCS sticker, it didn't work!I wonder if there is a way we could support each other in this on sites.
------------- Lyn xxx
Harbury Fields March
Moreton in the Marsh March/April
Hawthorn Cottage April
Lamb Cottage April
Somers Wood May
Maxstoke Hall June
Houghton Mill June
Lamb Cottage August
Somers Wood September
The Meadows, October
Totally agree with phathamster. These guys do seem out of order and should have been asked to tone it down it's not fair on people who don't want to listen to that. It can ruin peoples trip and put people off however if you have made the campsite aware it is down to them to deal with it if you are not willing to say anything to them. It amazes me how people don't have respect for others their surroundings especially on a campsite, the warden should of done something if the music was too loud. Unless the children were mistreated of looked in danger i don't see how you can justify calling anyone, if anything it sounded like they were enjoying themselves and the adults were not paying much attention/telling them what they can/can't due that is hardly a crime is it? your making a serious choice by contacting the NSPCC and by the sounds of it they were using bad language/mis-behaiving as annoying as it may be it is not a crime...
On the flip side
One gripe i do have and have found since i have started camping/joined this forum is snobby campers as a young lad 24 and my fiance of 23 i find when we turn up to a campsite and start unpacking we get dodgy looks as if because we are young we are going to blare music out and get hammered. I have been brought up well and repect/treat people as i would like to be treat. Yes we will have a drink within reason however we are never loud always keep our pitch tidy we never play a stereo as i our neighbours may not have the same taste in music as us so why should i subject them to listening to it? we as responsable as the next couple however due to our age i find it funny how people think "oh god please don't pitch here" when we turn up.
Just thought i would throw this one out there if anyone has experianced the same sort of thing when turning up to a campsite? i am pretty thick skinned so it does not bother me in the slightest although i think it could make some other people feel uncomfortable.
carl13 - I am a middle aged woman who camps on her own & it wouldnt bother me at all if a young couple camped next to me, I rather like having youngsters around & if everyone was as considerate as you & your fiancee then we'd all be happier. I am sorry that you have experienced dodgy looks. I have noticed when I have camped that the young couples never cause any problems it generally is the larger rowdy groups that do & that is often once they have had a few drinks.
Going back to the original subject - I am shocked that this was a C&C Club site - am I being naive? Much seems to be made of the fact that you are less likely to have this type of problem their sites. I too wonder if the honest review will be posted, have my doubts. What's the name of the site so we can all check if the review is on there.
I'm not agest in any way and to be honest I think most people find it's the 30 to 40 somethings with kids that can be the worst of all . I'm a life long biker and what some of these family groups inflict on other campers would have seen us band from sites . I like to have good contact with a site owner wether it be a recognised nod or a chat if they get time and from talking to many it's the lies there told by such groups on booking and they are lies you don't turn up for a quiet camping weekend with two 24 packs and bottles of vodka then suprize suprize there best friends turn up ! A sure sign of trouble is the clink of bottles as that's there priorate . We've lost a wonderful site at Kettlewell in the Dales due to these idiots . It needs stamping out if a site wants this type of custom then so be it but please let us all know so we can go else were permanently .
at Carl13 I'm another middle aged mum who has no objection to being camped next to a young couple. And years ago, when we were a young couple ourselves I really rather imagined the old f*rts all thought we were sweet.
These selfish, boorish idiots broke several C&CC rules - re. damage to other people's cars / property and noise past 11.00 p.m.
The wardens failed in their duty to uphold the rules of the Club.
You say you were scared. I should have been, too - it sounds like a very intimidating situation.
Report the wardens to the Club for their apathetic responses to calls for assistance and failure to deal with a pretty nasty situation for the majority of the campers, and demand either a refund or a credit note for future camping nights - or both.
If the Club is now allowing this sort of behaviour, then it will only get worse. It needs to be stamped on hard so the word gets out there.
I have contacted the CC&C as it was a listed site and received a reply :
"We are very sorry to hear that you have been dissatisfied recently with one of the sites listed within our network.
If you would like to provide us with the details of the site in question, we can contact the site owner on your behalf, however as Listed Sites operate outside of our jurisdiction we do recommend addressing any issues directly with the site owner, or the local
authority.
We do hope that this experience hasn't deterred you from staying on any of our other sites, and wish you well for the remainder of the season."
I told them what had happened and that I had spoken to the owner. To be honest I hadn't realised listed sites were just that a name in a book they don't have to conform to the CC&C rules. I shall think twice now about listed sites and it's time for me to chalk it up to experience and perhaps leave big sites alone. Thanks for all the replies, supports & ideas. As ever the best camping forum members!
------------- Lyn xxx
Harbury Fields March
Moreton in the Marsh March/April
Hawthorn Cottage April
Lamb Cottage April
Somers Wood May
Maxstoke Hall June
Houghton Mill June
Lamb Cottage August
Somers Wood September
The Meadows, October
Following on from what CARL13 said, it is interesting that often that we judge people when they arrive on site, young, old, large group, same sex small or large groups etc. I am a live and let live person and take all people on their own merits, I always try to be polite, and say hello to campers/caravaners who pitch near me when I or they arrive, this often breaks the ice and makes it easier to speak to them later if needed. The majority of people are resectful of each other and the camp site rules. We should NEVER feel intimidated by speaking to someone who is breaking the rules of the campsite or common sense, if a camp site has rules and these are being broken then it is up to the campsite wardens/owners to sort this out and point out that if they don't why are the rules there in the first instance,
It's such a shame when a minority ruin your own holiday, but we will never stamp this out i'm sorry to say.
You should have seen the looks we got when we turned up at a C&CC club temporary holiday site over the jubilee weekend - on our (fairly noisy) trike!
However, people had to pass us to get to the dog walking area or off the site and we ended up chatting to just about everybody as they slowed down to look at the trike.
One of the chaps then asked if we would mind if his son who had Down's Syndrome could site on the trike and of course we said yes. I will never forget the look of pure joy and excitement on this young man's face and it was the highlight of the weekend. The chap took some photos and emailed them to us later and said we were welcome to join them any time. What a fab weekend.
Just goes to show, never judge a book by it's cover!!
I would have approached them because behaviour like this is not acceptable.I also appreciate how extremely intimidating it is for others to deal with if they are not used to dealing with conflict or aggression.
Earlier in the thread someone mentioned it cant be stopped, but it can, but only if people bother to do something about it rather than just admit defeat.
Now look at it this way if a group was keeping you and your kids awake and i came and asked if it was bothering you and i was prepared to deal with it if we all got together to deal with it head on, wouldnt you feel better about confronting them ?
I often have to deal with aggro as a im ticket inspector so get used to how these idiots can be but my job gets a lot easier when everyone else backs me up when im dealing with them.
When the people causing the problems realise how many people are actually against them they soon quiet down.
On a personal level i wouldnt have stood for it as i dont want my kids hearing that type of language and i would have been relentless until it stopped by approaching the group and also the site owner/warden.
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Topic: A weekend of mixed experience
