I know it was TIC, sometimes my dry sense of humour is also mistaken. Thats the beauty of forums like this one, you cant see me grinning like a Cheshire cat in front of this monitor when I post, so its hard to tell when something is said in jest or is serious in nature without the odd emoticon.
I do sometimes find it fascinating how society is run, considering how many tests we have to pass in order to do things like drive a car, hold a firearm, administer medicine etc, and yet there's no licence for having kids when considering all the damage and trouble they can cause as they grow up.
Some things just seem so illogical, but seems to persist because thats how its always been done.
Now can you tell if I am joking, being serious or a bit of both?
I am going on my first camping adventure with my family and hope it will be a success, i considered taking a tv but have since thought against the idea. There is definatley a lack of respect and it is accross the board and it doesnt matter if your camping or in a caravan. We stayed at devon cliffs and every morning i would wake up only to find that someone had pulled my electric cable out, who does that?, i found out it was young kids walking around doing it late at night. Nothing you can do but to ignore them. When i go camping my 2 young kids will be respectfull at all times and hopefully change some opinions of people who have had bad expereinces.
Quote: Originally posted by Bopocho on 26/8/2017
I am going on my first camping adventure with my family and hope it will be a success, i considered taking a tv but have since thought against the idea. There is definatley a lack of respect and it is accross the board and it doesnt matter if your camping or in a caravan. We stayed at devon cliffs and every morning i would wake up only to find that someone had pulled my electric cable out, who does that?, i found out it was young kids walking around doing it late at night. Nothing you can do but to ignore them. When i go camping my 2 young kids will be respectfull at all times and hopefully change some opinions of people who have had bad expereinces.
I dont know if you have ever been in a similar situ when you were a kid, some of the nuisances to adults/strangers was to play Knock on Ginger where you knock on someone's door and then run off leaving them to open the door to no one.
This pulling the cable out is a caravan site variation of Knock on Ginger, or like letting down someone's car tyre.
Its just kids at a certain mental age doing things like this. Nothing you can do other than to guard against it.
Maybe something nasty like butter smeared around the cable where they are likely to put their hands might put them off pulling it out again.
Its a nuisance having to go wash your hands unplanned though and you could even leave a little note which can only be seen when pulling the cable out with maybe a little warning, like "Handling the cable can result in an increase of triglycerides on the surface of the largest organ of the integumentary system".
Technically you have told them what would happen but in a way they probably dont understand.
Quote: Originally posted by Sleeper17 on 08/8/2017
After all lets say some family dont realise how loud they are when on site, do you have a quiet word with them, or not? Maybe they are new to camping, or have some slight hereditary hearing problem.
Maybe they are. Or maybe they just don't give a toss, and instead of puzzlement followed by acceptance and possibly even contrition, you get antagonism and a stream of profanity. Then, given that you're on the next pitch, your holiday gets pretty awkward.
We live in a world where the unwritten social rules, the glue that once provided the framework to hold together society, have largely disappeared.
These days the only rule that matters is that you must never, ever criticise another person, particularly if that person appears to be poor, poorly educated, or poorly socialised (unless they are well off, in which case you can call them what you like, because there is a strong tendency in British society to presume that if somebody has money they don't deserve it and probably did something unethical to get it). Whatever that behavior is that you think is unacceptable, is acceptable. And the corollary of that is that if somebody criticises you, however gently, you have a right to verbally smack them in the face.
There is always an excuse. There is always special pleading. There is always somebody ready to defend behavior that is not only unproductive but that creates friction with others. What there never seems to be is an acceptance of personal responsibility.
Unruly children? None of your business!
Sweary adults? Who are you to police their language!
Criminal behavior? Walk a mile in their shoes before you judge!
Of course, there will always be a few people in society who will try and take advantage of the remaining 95%. That has been a constant throughout history. What seems to me to be new is the idea that the behavior people who behave in ways that, over time, damage the fabric civic society should be excused.
I understand why. I understand that people wanted to throw off the restrictive mores of the 1950s and 1960s, and some of those customs were indeed undesirable and unreasonable. Women not being allowed to take out mortgages in their own name, for example. We have a freer society as a result.
But there are no free lunches. What this has also gradually led to is a refusal by influential portions of society to accept any criticism of the behavior of any social subgroup that does not actively break a law - and even then not always. (Knife crime in London is a good example: it is overwhelmingly perpetrated by a certain ethnic minority, yet some sections of the media make excuses for the perpetrators.)
Basically we've opened a Pandora's box and the long-term effects on our society are difficult to predict.
Back in the here and now this brings us back to the problems raised in the original post about children running riot. It's not just your imagination. Parents do increasingly believe that their own children are beyond criticism and that others must put up with their behavior. Can I prove it? No. Doesn't mean it's not happening.
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Topic: Are the times a-changing?
