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Message posted by artaylor on 03/5/2018 at 10:28am
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i am a Alevel student studying Product Design and was hoping you could spare me a few minutes of your time.
i am designing a product to help secure valuables for people whilst camping. i am trying to get as much information as possible from people who camp or involved in camping to help me design a solution to the problem.
so i would like to to know. as a camper, what the main problems are with security?

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Annabelle

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Hiya, is this just for people who go Tent Camping, or people who also go camping in a motorhome and caravan?

Just so I know so I can put this in the right section.

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Message posted by artaylor on 03/5/2018 at 10:37am
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Well both would be helpful in my coursework. But i am mainly focusing on camping in tents.
Thank you.

Message posted by TimCESmith on 03/5/2018 at 11:43am
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Hi Annabelle and good luck with the project.

Tent campers rely mostly on trust: campers look out for each other and thefts on site are surprisingly rare. I've heard of furniture etc going missing from outside tents. I tend not to leave mine outside, so haven't had this problem myself. I do leave valuables inside the tent, but try to make sure everything is out of sight. Theft from inside tents at festivals is more common than on campsites. Tents are obviously very easy to get into with a knife.

Car campers can just lock stuff away inside their car. PacSafe do an interesting range of lockable, mesh reinforced dry bags which are aimed at motorcyclists. Locking one of those to something immovable could be a useful option - although of course it would attract attention to itself.

There have been a few threads on here discussing alarms and other anti-theft strategies, so it'd be worth searching for those.

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As a camper you rely on trust. There is no point in trying to secure a tent because the walls are only a thin material and a knife to the canvass would make securing the door zips pointless. I generally secure any valuables in the car boot if I am going out for the day and leaving the tent unoccupied.
Thankfully I have only experienced theft from a tent twice in nearly 20 years of camping, the fist was due to the sites location to a rough estate, the local youths had cottoned on that the tents where easy pickings. The second was a young child from a nearby tent who raided our chocolate supply, that was more comical.

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Hi and good luck with your designing.

we also leave valuables in the tent out of view and trust your fellow campers to keep an eye out.

never had anything stolen either, but now I've posted this knowing sods law, I might put them in the car now lol

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If we keep telling where we keep all our valuables the thieves will know where to look

Apart from camping gear which is impossible to secure although out of sight is out of mind if stowed in the tent when away, the only valuables I take camping are my wallet and my phone and they stay on my person all the time.

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We haven't had anything stolen and I've been camping and caravanning etc for 50 years.

Folks who go away to family camp sites taking their own tent/caravan etc are usually honest, law abiding, trustworthy individuals.

Again it's keep it out of sight and that makes it safe but that's true of security everywhere.

Where we do have a problem is they nick the whole caravan.

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Hello, we often take our bikes camping and basically just lock them to each other and the bike rack to make them difficult to move...but not impossible for a couple of strong people and a van.
I think some sort of ground anchor like the dog corkscrew type anchors with an eyelet instead of the triangular handle found on the dog spikes and some sort of collar that slides up over the eyelet as it screws into the ground and a tool that allows you to screw in the anchor with the collar in place. When it's fully in the ground the collar would just spin and therefore without using the tool down the collar to unscrew it would be reasonably secure. you could then attach the bike lock to the top of the collar which would provide a secure locking point and also stop the tool from getting down the collar to unscrew the anchor...that might not make much sense to anyone else but I'd buy one...
Sorry you didn't want a design just the problem but I've been thinking about this for years...

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How about the proliferation of cars with keyless entry, You can get little Faraday bags which are supposed to block the signal but there are many fakes which don't work. I can see this being exploited in the future, even if it's to access the valuables in the car.

Are you limited to security?

I'd be very interested in a small 12V compressor fridge for around £150.
A 240V table top device can be bought for £60 at Aldi, yet a portable 12V version in a coolbox design is £500 - significant market gap.

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We either keep wallets and phones with us or locked in the car. Chain the bikes to the table. We simply don't bother taking any thing else of value - except the tent, of course!

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As a car camper, we always lock valuables in the car when we leave the tent, and put outdoor furniture in the tent, zipping it up and closing blinds. We sometimes leave the radio on as well. From the outside, a would-be-thief might think that someone’s inside, having a nap.

Perhaps campsites should consider having lockers for non-car campers to leave their valuables?

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Quote: Originally posted by Babywhale on 03/6/2018
As a car camper, we always lock valuables in the car when we leave the tent, and put outdoor furniture in the tent, zipping it up and closing blinds. We sometimes leave the radio on as well. From the outside, a would-be-thief might think that someone’s inside, having a nap.

Perhaps campsites should consider having lockers for non-car campers to leave their valuables?



The one in Lisbon has lockers.

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