i dont think i would like to be imprisoned in a tent that size for a weekend whatever the HH.
is it me that looks at the little figures that inhabit the plan of tents in catalogues with distain ,they'r either tiny chinese persons or they have an extremelyclose living lifestyle
see 4 little figures read 2 in real life ,unless ofcourse your night life is very entertaining
if you cant stand up its not a tent but a survival bag.
mind you looking at the double sleeping bags from the same chain ,the thickness even in summer would need those extra little figures just to keep warm ,i thought the days of shivering blue lipped waiting for sunrise was left at my childhood escapades.
i think head office buys camping gear because their competitors do ,no real thought just buy camping gear now ,cheap cheap cheap so we can compete without any camping knowledge whatsoever ,how many campers have been put of camping because their first eagerly bought cheap gear saddly left them disalusioned that first trip.
Quote: Originally posted by welshwyn on 20/8/2006
I think the idea of having cheap tents for festivals, is most get abused or damaged by the weather or other inconsiderate festival goers, a lot also get slashed by thieves looking for anything they can steal. ....
Yes, but I would still prefer my son to stay dry up until the point some mad man waving a stanley knife approaches his tent in the night ! Yikes, wish I hadn't started thinking about all of this .... MT
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Well we havnt been put off , in fact we're looking to buy a larger one for next year , but that doesnt feel like real camping to me . We bought all the cheapest stuff going , was out in the storms last weekend & hoping to get another weekend in before the end of the season. 4 of us all snuggled up together inside - great.
A real cheapie like that might be useful for the kids to have their own space in a caravan awning, or even in the living area of a large dome tent. The it wouldn't matter if did rain. Just a thought
The legal limit to call something waterproof is 1500 hh.
WRONG!!
HH is a measurement of a column of water on a piece of fabric. If a tent is 1500mm HH it's still not waterproof as you get driving wind and rain which can increase the pressure of rain falling on the tent. If the HH is stated as being 1500mm then that would be the British Standard, so therefore who ever told you the legal limit to call something waterproof is 1500 hh would be wrong.
You can get 2000mm HH and still not be waterproof but is more waterproof than 1500mm.
my daughter just bought a cheap one layer tent from asda for 19.99 she is going to take it back as no it isnt waterproof at all. just been to castle cary, somerset with a few down pours and they were soaked bless them lol...... had to dry out sleeping bags every night, even when it hadnt been raining..so i would forget the bargain and spend a little more on a descent tent, and enjoy a rest full and dry nights sleep.
Hi alberybunch, single skin tents still have a HH. But the dissadvantage of single skin is if you touch the inner you will break the water seal. My mate purchased the same tent and i laughed at him and said, just put a waterproof groundsheet over the top. Lol.
Advice, buy a tent with a good HH ie:1500 - 2000mm, double skin, Sewn in ground sheet. Vent flaps. If you go to a good camping shop you will find one. When you get home it would be best to pitch it up to familarise yourself with it and purchase some waterproofer for the tent, reason is the flysheet has a coating applied on the inside and taped seams. The outer is not actually repellent although rain falls on it and forms beads but not for long. As the flysheet gets wet it makes it heavier, so along with waterproofer it helps tremendously.
so,i have a lichfield navada 5.it has a hh of 2000mm and says double skin but thats just the roof.will i be ok or should i waterproof.on here peeps have said that you dont have to waterproof unless canvas.flysheet hes taped seams.
Merry Terrier,I`m sure he`ll be fine. My 14 yr old camped at his first festival (V Chelmsford) last weekend with older brother for whom it was a second time. I spent all weekend fretting. They came back muddy, exhausted and elated having had a thoroughly good time.
Quote: Originally posted by CaravanSkier on 23/8/2006
Merry Terrier,I`m sure he`ll be fine. My 14 yr old camped at his first festival (V Chelmsford) last weekend with older brother for whom it was a second time. I spent all weekend fretting. They came back muddy, exhausted and elated having had a thoroughly good time.
Thanks, Debbie! I have calmed down a bit now But will probably do my fair share of fretting this weekend anyway. MT
------------- Tackling life the Western District way
They are right, you don't really need to waterproof a tent, but it does help. I have a Toronto tunnel tent and i only reproof it every two years. If you get bird mess or tree crap on it wash it off then reproof. When you do wash it don't use detergents as you can ruin the coating on the inside, especially if there are taped seams.
You should expect to pay £25.00 for a reasonable sleeping bag to keep you warm and comfortable in this country during the summer and expect to get several years use out of it. You got a further Three sleeping bags Four sleep mats and a Four person tent thrown in for the same price.............I'll leave you to work out the quality issue.................good luck !!!
Hi Telhoman, with all my years experience of using tents and sleeping bags, a lot of companies, ie:- Sainsbury, Asda, Millets, Blacks and Argos plus many more, the these packs you are describing i must admit are very good. The one snag i can think of with thes is, which one to choose. If you put into perspective, you may be better off going to camping stores such as the 2 mentioned and Oswald Bailey. Only because they are experts in this field, no pun intended. Supermarkets may have good offers but may not have the knowledge that you may need to know.
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But will probably do my fair share of fretting this weekend anyway. MT
