Insurance Quotes

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register  Log In  Search  Latest Posts
 Reception - All Forums
   Caravans and Caravanning -  Caravan Repairs, Servicing and Maintenance
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email
Subject Topic: Water pump wont start
Post Reply
18/4/2007 at 6:23pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Elddis Firestorm 2003 + Audi A6
View keefg's Profile View Profile   Reply to keefg Reply   Quote keefg Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2007

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   31

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Hi all,

Just got this 1991 Bailey and I can't get the water to come out of the taps.  The power is on hook-up, the water connected and the PUMP switch on the panel is on.  I thought that if you opened a tap the pressure drop was detected and the pump ran.  Is there a fault?  I am new to all of this and can't even locate the pump (is it under the carver water heater).

The manual is rubbish so any trouble shooting tips would be appreciated.

Thanks, Keef



18/4/2007 at 6:48pm
 Location: South Gloucestershire
 Outfit: Sterling Excel 550 - Honda CR-V Mk4
View Ulti-Mates's Profile View Profile   Reply to Ulti-Mates Reply   Quote Ulti-Mates Quote  
Joined: 26/10/2003

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4931

Site Reviews Total: 5
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Hi Keef,

I would expect that the water pump is a submersible type, and dangles into your Aquaroll. There is a two pin brass connector at the end that engages into the van. Is the connection clean?

If when you lift the tap there is a very quiet "click" then you have micro switches in the taps. With a tap open there should be 12volts passing through the two pins.

If you have 12 volts at the connection...it could be that the pump has gone...this is not uncommon...they have a limited life.

 

Worth a try to fiddle with the external connection whilst the tap is open.

hope this helps

 

Mr Ulti-Mate

 



18/4/2007 at 7:00pm
 Location: Walsall
 Outfit: Unicorn Barcelona 2 & Kia Sorento
View rushallmanor's Profile View Profile   Reply to rushallmanor Reply   Quote rushallmanor Quote  
Joined: 20/7/2006

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   493

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Sounds like the pump is missing

Steve



18/4/2007 at 7:10pm
 Location: Wakefield West Yorkshire
 Outfit: Cristall 530ew
View maryloo's Profile View Profile   Reply to maryloo Reply   Quote maryloo Quote  
Joined: 31/3/2006

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   369

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

We had a similar problem and went to Ropers in Catterick to get the pumps (yes we had bought a new one as well)  to get them tested.

They both worked - the people there told us that the connections on the punp where it gets connected to the van, need to be proded open every so often. They are brass made of 4 bits each forming a cross  like the top of a screw. Hubby put a small screwdriver in to seperate them a bit - problem solved.

It is worth a try.



-------------
Maryloo
Life is good!!


18/4/2007 at 9:03pm
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
 Outfit: Ford Kuga Senator California
View JohnG's Profile View Profile   Reply to JohnG Reply   Quote JohnG Quote  
Joined: 02/12/2003

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   6132

Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

If its a Whale pump the terminals in the pump plug are crimped on to tinned(soldered) leads and the solder oxidises and then the connection is not so good.

We found this with afew caravans on rallies ,the last one being my friends 2005 Bailey that had a habit of stopping pumping mid shower !!

Soldering the leads on direct minus the crimps solved the problem permanently and looked much better that levelling wedges against the pump plug!!



-------------
John


Advertisement

Wolfbox


18/4/2007 at 10:12pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Elddis Firestorm 2003 + Audi A6
View keefg's Profile View Profile   Reply to keefg Reply   Quote keefg Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2007

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   31

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Thanks for replies :)

I don't think it is a submersible pump as the the van was supplied with the pipe arrangement that connects the aquaroll to the van. I can't see a 12V external connection either (which I now recall my parents Coachman has in the loo locker).

Where is the pump normally mounted?

Thanks, Keef



18/4/2007 at 11:03pm
 Location: Devon
 Outfit: Bailey Maru
View MudIark's Profile View Profile   Reply to MudIark Reply   Quote MudIark Quote  
Joined: 14/2/2007

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   342

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

As you have a Bailey, what you should have is one of these:


on the side of the van, into which you push one of these:





The inner square bit is the plug and the tubular bit with the mushroom head is the submersible pump which goes into the aquaroll. Both wire and pipework are within the outer tubing

-------------




19/4/2007 at 12:33am
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
 Outfit: Ford Kuga Senator California
View JohnG's Profile View Profile   Reply to JohnG Reply   Quote JohnG Quote  
Joined: 02/12/2003

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   6132

Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

This is a 1991 van and I don't think that that type of pump was available then

Our1990 Equerry had the Carver Crystal with the pipe and pump attached and stored in a box on the side.

Many vans then had a round water connector next to the waste outlet with a small round socket for a 12V plug connection nearby on the van side.



-------------
John


19/4/2007 at 12:46pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Elddis Firestorm 2003 + Audi A6
View keefg's Profile View Profile   Reply to keefg Reply   Quote keefg Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2007

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   31

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Thank chaps - The only boxes I have on the side and for the battery and the toilet cassette.  No sign of a box like Mudlarks or a 12V connector.  I am pretty sure the pump must be in or under the van but tricky to see under unless I pull the van out.  On the side of the van the only connector is a round socket for the water tube to connect to.  This is connected to by a water tube with an aquaroll cap and a length of fixed pipe.  The water socket joins the van behind the bathroom cabinet moulding, so again tricky to trace the water pipes once they enter the van.

Still stumped!



19/4/2007 at 2:19pm
 Location: West Sussex
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 580 + Skoda Superb es
View GeorgeB's Profile View Profile   Reply to GeorgeB Reply   Quote GeorgeB Quote  
Joined: 29/8/2006

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   265

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Keefg,

Not familiar with your van, but the set up sounds like what I had on my old (94) Castleton, my inlet on that was just as you describe, but it was near to & in front of the water heater on the off side front panel.

If you look around the area inside the van, where the pipe inlet is, or near the water heater, usually under the seat on the off side front, you'll probably find a Shureflow water pump, just before the cold water inlet goes into the water heater, there will be a fuse for this pump in the fuse panel and there should be one on or near the pump itself, check the fuses first, the cost of one these pumps is enough to make your eyes water! 



-------------
GeorgeB

I'm a Grumpa....its just like being a Grandpa..only grumpier!


Advertisement



19/4/2007 at 9:19pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Elddis Firestorm 2003 + Audi A6
View keefg's Profile View Profile   Reply to keefg Reply   Quote keefg Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2007

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   31

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

FOUND THE PUMP - but still not working  !

If you open the wardrobe there is a panel on the right leading to the void behind the sink. Open the panel and pump is screwed to the otherside of it. Very tricky to see properly as the hoses have little slack.

I can confirm that there is 12V to the terminals on the pump.  One side of the pump appears to be the pressure switch.

Any ideas on how to troubleshoot from here?



19/4/2007 at 11:09pm
 Location: Devon
 Outfit: Bailey Maru
View MudIark's Profile View Profile   Reply to MudIark Reply   Quote MudIark Quote  
Joined: 14/2/2007

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   342

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

check out the microswitch of the pressure switch it might well be this that has gone, if not and the pressure switch is actuating I'm afraid it'll be the pump

-------------




26/4/2007 at 11:57pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Elddis Firestorm 2003 + Audi A6
View keefg's Profile View Profile   Reply to keefg Reply   Quote keefg Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2007

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   31

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Bought a new Shureflo pump with built in switch as old one is destined for the scrap heap!

Just out of interest I was quoted £80 from local dealer, £79+delivery on various caravan websites BUT - £51 including postage from a chandlery!!

Looks like caravaners pay a premium!

Keef



27/4/2007 at 12:18am
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: http: www.arcsystems.biz
View arc systems's Profile View Profile   Reply to arc systems Reply   Quote arc systems Quote  
Joined: 02/12/2003

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4375

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2026: 0 
Site Reviews 2025: 0 
Site Reviews 2024: 0 
Site Reviews 2023: 0 
Site Reviews 2022: 0 
Site Reviews 2021: 0 
Site Reviews 2020: 0 
Site Nights 2026: 0
Site Nights 2025: 0
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0

Your not the first to find out water pumps are cheaper for boat owners, daft thing is they pay more for almost everything else??

Just be carefull to read what pressure it's set at? you dont want more than 10-15 psi in your system or you will have big problems!!

Another thing, Shurflo pumps respond well to a strip down, clean and grease...saves even a cheap £51?




In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Caravan Repairs, Servicing and Maintenance - Top of Page

     Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...















    Upcoming Event

UKCS Meet Elvaston Steam Rally 2026 03/07 to 06/07

Amazing family weekend with old steam engines, classic car displays, market stalls, and full catering and bar. And camping on site - Save £25 by booking in advance.


5567 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Special Offers]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Tent Reviews

[Contact Us



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2026


Advertisement


Advertisement

Advertisement