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Subject Topic: Spongy Floor
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23/4/2005 at 3:24pm
 Location: Exeter Devon
 Outfit: Grand Voyager & Bailey Beachcomber 6
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Okay - I knew the floor was a little spongy when we put the van away for the winter...

The van is an 1984 Bailey Pageant Maestro D - 5 berth - no damp anywhere!

Picked it up to day, and having read all I could on sorting out a delaminated floor, I was expecting to find a wood/insulation/wood sandwich. However, all I find is a wood/foam-insulation layer.

The problem is that where the insulation sits on the subframe of the caravan the insulation has become compressed. My question is do I go about sorting the floor in the same way - by drilling and injecting a resin or do I need to do something a little different?

Thanks in advance.

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23/4/2005 at 4:44pm
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how big is the area         regards brian

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23/4/2005 at 5:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by brian.dyche at tis on 23/04/2005
how big is the area         regards brian

Brian, it is the usual area from the door to the sink opposite, so 0.6x1.5m.

Thanks for replying

Steve

 



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23/4/2005 at 8:25pm
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just drill fill with as much resin as you can you can always do it in 2 or three goes as far as youcan the youcan skim it with car body filler          regards brian

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23/4/2005 at 9:11pm
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hi see this it may help  delamination...if the depression is more than normal then some packing should be done before filling with resin,when i say  packing the ply is only 5mm thick so you need to cut out a hole that allows thin ply to go in.think of a ice cream wafer thin/filling/thin thats how the floor is made,all you are doing is glueing it all back together17

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23/4/2005 at 9:19pm
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Hi Steve,
      It's odd that it hasn't ply on the bottom.

Could it be packed up with pipe lagging the good stuff.

 

Paul



23/4/2005 at 10:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Paul_B on 23/04/2005
It's odd that it hasn't ply on the bottom.

Could it be packed up with pipe lagging the good stuff.


There is definately no ply under the insulation/foam. I'll try to up a photo at osme point so that you can see teh construction.

Paul, as to packing it would it be safe to lift the florr from underneath with a trolley/bottle jack and try to pack it that way?

Thanks all, Steve B



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25/4/2005 at 10:46am
 Location: Gloucestershire
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Steve, is your Bailey the old style of build (ie not sandwich type construction)? I had a Marathon built the 'old'way, that had a solid plywood floor with polystyrene stuck to the underside of it, so when you looked underneath it was polystyrene covered with a (loose) plastic membrane. That floor used to move and creak, but just movement between the panels.

Try drilling a small hole right through, you should be able to ascertain it is sandwich construction or not.



25/4/2005 at 2:45pm
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Vernon87 - you are spot on, black underside to the polystyrene, with a layer of plywood on top.

So what my options? Is packing between the subframe and the compressed polystyrene my only option - other than replacing the complete board?

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26/4/2005 at 12:22pm
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I put a piece of plywood about 12" wide and long enough to fit between the chassis, against the floor to spread the load and prevent the polystyrene from compressing and fastened 3" X 2" battens between the wooden chassis members to hold it in place.


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29/4/2005 at 11:48am
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Vernon - thanks for the tip.

I've got an Aluminium chassis. So can I use the plywood idea and just bridge the chassis members with ply or would this cause me too much of a lift problem as it will lift the floor above the original level?



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