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Subject Topic: Window misting Post Reply Post New Topic
17/4/2022 at 12:42pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Sorry for length of post but here goes.
That old chestnut is now bugging me. Last year I noticed for the first time in 8 years of owning this 'van, misting in the front centre window which would appear when the sun came out but go away in the usual manner with these scenarios. This year it was taking too long to go away, and there was also water drops running down the window inside the skins. Upon examining the edges I found to my horror about a three inch length of delamination at the top left hand corner. So armed with a fresh tube of Stixall (which sorted a bad case of delamination of the left front side window last year, all three edges had failed), I started to check, and as I nudged the gap with a screwdriver so as to introduce the adhesive, lo and behold the whole of the side sprung apart with a rasping sound. The lower seam is solid with no problems. So with my trusty supply of Hobbycraft Bulldog clips I set to and re-bonded the side. That was a few days ago, and the joint is now fine and the clips removed. However, I cannot get rid of the misting. I am assuming that the existence of so much cold/damp air which must have accumulated in there over the months is well-established. I have tried the trick of playing a hair drier over the outside surface (bungs removed); in a few hours this cleared the front skin but the inside pane was still misty. So today I have removed the window and it is stood against a chair in the garden in bright sunlight. The front skin cleared eventually, so I turned the window round the concentrate on the inner pane which is VERY slowly clearing but at the present rate I doubt if it will clear before the sun goes down this evening.
There is a new window of the correct type and tint/border colour available on line and I am now considering purchasing it as I don't think this window will ever clear to the state which is acceptable. What doesn't help me is that I am in the process of preparing the 'van for sale - this situation has somewhat scuppered my plans.
Any ideas anyone? Later today I am going to try one last idea, that is to make up a piece of thin tubing and funnel arrangement into one of the bung holes to try to clear the air in the window with a hair drier, the idea being to chase the damp air out of the other bung hole.
Wish me luck lol.


19/4/2022 at 4:24pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H
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I too had a problem with delamination, I have done my best to reseal it but can't get at the area under the hinge and therefore I recon that is the reason I've ended up with water in the bottom and misting. I mentioned it to my service guy who told me to drill a very small drain hole at the lowest point of the window corner, that's what they do. I did it and all the water has drained out so I've removed the two plugs and the airflow should fix it.
I can only suggest that you try the same before you buy your new window.

Dave.

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19/4/2022 at 5:21pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Many thanks for your response Dave.
There has been a development since my original post! I removed the window assembly from the caravan and after unsuccessful attempts to demist it (eg hair drier etc as suggested in other forums) I decided to try gentle compressed air through one of the bung holes. With hardly any air going in, the two sides which I had not attempted to seal gave up their hold and this enabled me to then wipe away the mist from both back and front. Obviously the bonding had weakened over time, and the Stixall which I had used on the first side held nicely. There was no sign whatever of any water having ever entering the unit, so I then proceeded to rebond the other two sides yesterday and the window is indoors and will be until some time on Friday by which time I reckon the bonding will have successfully "gone off".
Given the success of my repair on the side window last year (no deterioration since) I will again trust the use of Stixall to sort the problem.
Further report in due course....lol....
Pete


19/4/2022 at 6:20pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
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Ta for the update Pete, it sounds like you have it sussed, well done.

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19/4/2022 at 11:06pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Thanks Dave.
I'm looking forward to refitting the window on Friday. Luckily there is dry weather here forecast until well after the weekend so the piece of cardboard I have taped over the aperture should suffice to keep out bugs etc.
I know refitting it will be a bit of a pain due to the slight curvature of the top rail. My OH will help as she did with the removal. It was tricky to remove but I've cleaned up the surfaces which got a bit rough as it came off, and I'll apply a bit of lubricant along the surfaces of the rail to assist the operation.
Pete.


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23/4/2022 at 10:26pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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All back together now, and after 24 hours and some sun today no misting whatever.
Couple of pics in the next few days, one will be the 'before' of a couple of areas of the interior front window seal inlay strips which are very awful-looking. New roll ordered from eBay, new old stock 10 metres, need at least 8.5m. Should be very easy to do compared with that window lol.
Pete


24/4/2022 at 11:16pm
 Location: Kennington OXFORD
 Outfit: 2005 Eccles Sterling Topaz 2 berth
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Update to add no misting in the window at all over the last couple of days. Very pleased with the result.
The inlay should arrive by this coming Wednesday so busy then for a day.



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