Quote: Originally posted by rolph on 05/3/2013
Like this: left is the mesh door and at the right the normal door. Such a door is also on the left, only it is rolled upwards.
At the right door you can see the mesh part above the window.
Quote: Originally posted by rolph on 05/3/2013
When I looked at the pictures I also noticed the way the Cabanon has to be pitched... Pfff... The Velduil is much easier to pitch. Pitching in rainy weather with a loose ground sheet is a pain in the *** as well... Such problems are non existing a the DW models.
How is the Velduil easier to pitch than the Cabanon Biscaya or Awaya? Don't they all have interior zip-up pole sleeves?
If the Velduil does not have a zip in groundsheet (which are often favoured here on cotton or polycotton tents, because they can be removed for easy cleaning) then does that mean you have to assemble the pole hoops and walk them in through the door, once the front porch has been raised?
I do like the look of this tent, in particular, but it does seem to have very many pegging points (and considerably more than the Cabanon Biscaya or Awaya?).
Quote: I do like the look of this tent, in particular, but it does seem to have very many pegging points (and considerably more than the Cabanon Biscaya or Awaya?).
That is part of it's ability to withstand heavy winds along with it's steel poles and heavy cotton fabric. You can leave half the pegging points loose and it wil stand fine, probably better wind resistand than the cabanon but most De Waard owners take pride in having their DeWaard stand with all points secured neatly in line
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The Velduil does have a zip in groundsheet. But I would suggest never to use it. When you use a plastic cover under the groundsheet it will never get real dirty. The old DW models don't have a zip in the ground sheet. They are stitched together.
at Tricky Tree: indead that is the correct image.
at lidds0: When pitching you start by laying out the ground sheet with the cotton tent attached. And yes to enter the poles trough the door, but you assemble them inside and place them in the zip up pole sleeve.
This is easier as you already have the entire tent as one piece. And when it rains there is no water inside your tent...!!!!
The many pegging point is a caracteristic of a De Waard. And it does help to make it more stable. And in all honoustly it does not take that long to hammer them down. That is only perception.
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Quote: Originally posted by rolph on 06/3/2013
at lidds0: When pitching you start by laying out the ground sheet with the cotton tent attached. And yes to enter the poles trough the door, but you assemble them inside and place them in the zip up pole sleeve.
This is easier as you already have the entire tent as one piece. And when it rains there is no water inside your tent...!!!!
Hello Rolph,
With respect, you could leave the groundsheet attached to either the Biscaya or the Awaya, if you fancied lugging a great heavy lump of a tent around and into position. You could also open up the entire front and - as you suggest - assemble poles inside, lift and place in the zip-up pole sleeves. It's easier said than done though (I've tried it), when you have a lot of loose canvas on your head!
I think it sounds as if the pitching methods of the DW and the Cabanon tents in this particular style are basically the same, so I'm still curious about why you think the DW is easier.
I'm guessing the equivalent size De Waard is considerably heavier than both the Biscaya (which is all-season polyester) and the Awaya (which, although cotton canvas, has alu poles)?
I do think the Cabanon Awaya (probably the closest style and spec model available in the UK) could improve on the ventilation panels (which are only in the side windows, not the front, and even then not as much mesh as on the Biscaya) and so I agree the DW probably wins on that score.
The DW definitely has the design-edge if it has a mesh front panel as standard (I'm not too clear on this though, does the whole of the tent zip up and then the mesh panel zips down, or is it simply a panel for the door and another small one for the window?).
Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 06/3/2013
The DW definitely has the design-edge if it has a mesh front panel as standard (I'm not too clear on this though, does the whole of the tent zip up and then the mesh panel zips down, or is it simply a panel for the door and another small one for the window?).
There are 2 door panels in front of each other. A door with the large mesh panel and the door panel identical to the one on the right on the picture. The one you use you zip down the other one you roll up.
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Living currently in Copenhagen i would love to get more info on the Visuil, such as photos and floor layout / disposition. Sleeping on the left side makes sense to me since you can always position that side away from sun..no?
Loved looking at the beginning part of the thread..
I did say look. Pictures were great..
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