Looking to upgrade to a tent with a bigger living area and a porch and ideally a sewn in groundsheet. Vango diablo and Outwell Hartford L look to be the right size and shape (we are 2 adults and 2 children) but both are inner first pitching and we would prefer flysheet first so that the inner doesn't get wet and you have a shelter when you're taking the tent down.
Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig. Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.
Thanks in anticipation for your help. I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer! Budget is about £200.
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We recently had this same dilemma. You can get some tents which pitch flysheet first and have a sig. We finally went for the Wynnster Mallard 6. Not the shape you were looking for, it's a tunnel style, but there's loads of room in the porch area and 2 bedrooms.
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Hi all.
I read a report recently that tents that pitch their inners
first are normally stronger tents,I think this is possibly true as nearly all mountain and expedition tents pitch inner first.and when you are going to set up in the rain it will normally stop for a while why you get it set up.
Regards
Rex
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We have a Vango Aspen 700 dlx 2006 model which is inner first. The inner is up within 20 minutes and because they are designed so that air circulates between the outer and inner quite freely it dries in no time. The advantages are a more robust tent that stands up to torrential rain and gales without condensating or collapsing. plus you have lots of extra headroom and oceans more bedroom space.
we dont mind pitching inner first in the Hartford, if we have to do it in rain it soon dries off. It would probably be possible to lay the fly over it when pitching altho we havnt tried.
Looking to upgrade to a tent with a bigger living area and a porch and ideally a sewn in groundsheet. Vango diablo and Outwell Hartford L look to be the right size and shape (we are 2 adults and 2 children) but both are inner first pitching and we would prefer flysheet first so that the inner doesn't get wet and you have a shelter when you're taking the tent down.
Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig. Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.
Thanks in anticipation for your help. I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer! Budget is about £200.
Hi, we did the same research prior to buying our latest Khyam. Looked at the Vango Diablo and the Outwells...but as you rightly say...they pitch inner first....
And before any of you get stuck into the serious debate of pitch inner first vs fly first...how have you all done pitching inners first in the recent weather?
I wouldn't want a sig anyway as (again another big debating point) I would rather have the adjustabe ventilation. The Khyam Nebraska is a good tent, good quality and will definitely tick a lot of your boxes.
Nick
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We have just got back from a very wet weekend with the Diablo 600.I can see your point about pitching but it's just a personal choice really.I have an Outwell which pitches fly first but it makes no real difference to us,the inner will dry quick anyway if it gets wet.
The Diablo has good ventilation too around the inner so don't worry about the sig.
Quote: Originally posted by Victor Khyam on 01/7/2007
Quote: Originally posted by joannief on 01/7/2007
Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig. Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.
Thanks in anticipation for your help. I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer! Budget is about £200.
Hi, we did the same research prior to buying our latest Khyam. Looked at the Vango Diablo and the Outwells...but as you rightly say...they pitch inner first....
And before any of you get stuck into the serious debate of pitch inner first vs fly first...how have you all done pitching inners first in the recent weather?
I wouldn't want a sig anyway as (again another big debating point) I would rather have the adjustabe ventilation. The Khyam Nebraska is a good tent, good quality and will definitely tick a lot of your boxes.
Nick
Very quickly lol !!! Seriously though we have pitched in the rain but as has been pointed out the rain appears to stop when we are pitching the inner but even if that were not the case , it really would not take long to dry,and once the fly is on weather can do what it wants (within reason of course !! )
Thank you for all your replies - it's certainly given me food for thought.
But must admit I'm no nearer making a decision. Been thinking about the Gelert Lokon Vario now which I've read good things about (ie the opposite to my other two preferences)! Mrs Indecisive!
Hi, we got a 2006 Diablo 600 for £199. Very nice tent, takes us about 45 mins to put up, (it is much easier with two people)a lot of that is pegging out and adjusting guys. 600 has plenty space for 2 adults & 2 kids though extra pod on 900 wouldn't come in wrong. If had bigger car would consider big frame tent but for now Diablo is fine.
Mo
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Well after spending the weekend in Cornwall I can only say that I was Glad we took our Monty and not our Diablo. We arrived Saturday morning in driving rain and wind and after waiting half an hour decided that we would just go for it and get the tent up. Now we can normally pitch the Monty in about 30-40 mins and on Saturday it took us just over an hour. I dont actually think we could have pitched our 900 the wind and rain were too strong and even if we had got the inner up it would have been soaked by the time we had got the fly over. Having both styles of tent I would certainly only ever go for an outer pitch first.
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Topic: inner pitching versus flysheet first
