I have a 2006 montana 6 tent has anyone used a 2010 or 2011 awning with it? A camping supplier asked Outwell if the 2011 would fit and they said no but I wondered if this is really the case or is there any way that I can make it work.
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Can I ask how often you have used your tent 2006 Montana 6, the reason I ask is we are told that these tents will last for around 12 to 14 weeks in sunlight and then begin to turn brittle. If you are a 2 week per year camper and your Montana 6 has seen 12 weeks in the sun, you might want to rethink the idea of spending several hundreds of pounds on extras for it.
I am in no way a Montana guru, but when the awning pulls over the Montana, at the front loop, there might be some pressure and rubbing in the wind ....... this on old roof fabric ( the bit that gets the sun most ) might be a problem. I hope one of the more experienced Montana owners on here can offer you more advice.
Thanks for your advice I did not know that they only lasted that long, however inspite of the fact that I have owned it since 2006 I have only used it for about 3 weeks in total so its still quite new really.
Utter piffle. They'll last for years and years if you look after them. I have 15 year old tents made of cheaper material than the Outwell material and the tents have had a lot of use and they are still as good as the day they were pitched for the first time. Yet another mis-information from folks who just happened to hear it from somewhere. When the coating on the inside of the tent starts to peel and break and the material is no longer pliable, then and ONLY then its time to look for a new tent.
As for the original question. the best way to judge is to compare the measurements of the 2006 with the 2010. If they are exactly the same (which im pretty sure they are), I dont see the problem with them fitting. The majority of changes to the Monty seem to be cosmetic rather than structural. (If it aint broke then they're not going to fix it)
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Dezzie ... guess a lot of people are also wrong, seems includes retailers that are honest enough to tell you ........
Quote: Originally posted by Speedcamp on 04/6/2010
The average supposed age of a 70-75D polyester tent (as Outwell like many use) is 16 weeks of UV exposure - although some seem to last far less and others longer. It depends how often and long you camp - even in Wales. The Monty's seem to be lasting quite well though going by the age of some of those still being used, although some Outwells have not proven to be so good (there's the occasional report of flysheets becoming brittle and splitting quickly).
The 100D flysheets produced by Kampa will last potentially significantly longer. Here is an interesting quote, although it doesn't give an absolute for either.
"75D Polyester is 10-20% stronger than 70D nylon, and has 30% longer life under UV exposure. 150D Polyester is 50% stronger than 70D nylon, and has 200% longer life under UV exposure".
Most proofing agents won't protect against UV exposure unfortunately.
Helen
Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 04/6/2010
Rule of thumb is six months of cumulative use (that's what I've always been told, anyway) which is supposed to work out at about 5-7 years worth of "average" use. For a quality tent like Outwell, I'd belive that. Less though if you always camp in the South of France where the sunshine is fiercer.
Fabsil is a complete waste of money at this point, sorry. Synthetic tents don't need waterproofer till their last year of life when the laminating starts breaking down...and at that point, more cost effective to look for a new tent.
I wouldn't worry about your Monty for a few years yet. Once the flysheet starts going stiff, crunchy or milky on the inside though, it's time to think of a replacement.
I quote from the advice before buying tents from Allweathers........." How long will my tent last ?"
Answer: Due to UV exposure, polyester tents have a lifespan of between 12 - 14 weeks depending on quality. Poly-cotton tents have a lifespan of 25+ weeks (if cared for correctly)
Take a look at my post on the camping under canvas forum. I think it may just put your mind at rest Old Grey. You have to remember we live in a country that gets more rain than sunshine, we live in the Northern Hemisphere and Im not saying that your tent wont get exposed to UV rays, but it wont be going crispy for rather a long time.
Most of this information you've quoted is people who've been "told" or hearsay. How many of these people are actually qualified to say that with evidence? Of course tent retailers and manufacturers are going to give you a life span of a tent - they have a product to sell. People usually replace tents because they no longer suit their needs, not because they've got to the end of their lives. I've never thrown away a tent due to delaminating n my 30 odd years of camping. Im not for one second saying it doesnt happen, but what i am saying is that manufacturers, retailers and forum members are second guessing - they are not basing their information on practical evidence - With the greatest of respect to our fellow members of the forum of course.
You'll also find that the particular quotes you use were asking a completely different question about whether its worth reproofing a tent when it starts to delaminate - which the information they've given is completely correct. But the time scale in which a tent delaminates is vastly exaggerated.
I think my post in the camping under canvas is proving that. I'd urge you to take a look. It may just set your mind at rest.
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They do fit by the way. The only issue is that the 2010 model tent does not have fixing points for the groundsheet. These fixing point were added to the 2011 Montana 6. I have a 2011 awning fitted to a Montana Lake and again the lake was based upon the 2010 Montana 6 so no groundsheet fixings . No big deal.
Thank you both for your comments I am just checking that you realised I have a 2006 model of the montana 6, not the 2010. Do you know if it will still fit?
Don't know if this will help but we have a 2007 Montana 6 and just recently (ok last weekend) purchased a front extension 2011 version we used it last week and it fitted fine. I know you were talking about an awning but they seem to fit the same way.
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Hi
We had a 2007 Montana, without the side porch, and a 2010 canopy and it fit fine so the awning should be ok.
As for how long will a poly tent last.
Well its down to how strong are the UV rays. All I will say is our display poly tents during the summer months would only last 12 to 14 weeks "Camping World" thought I was being a bit over optimistic as they had some that would only last 8 weeks.
We can only speak as we find with our display tents and these are our results so they are fact not some sales gimmick as has been suggested
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Topic: 2010/2011 awning fit 2006 montana 6?
