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12/3/2013 at 11:46am
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A lot of people have sung the praises of the Kampa Frinton 4 Classic (polycotton), which has 3-piece poles (steel uprights and 'Dynaflex' roof poles).

My question is about best pitching style: do you peg out the G/S and raise the middle pole first and then do the others, or do you feed them all through, do the ring and pin and then walk it out (realise this is only possible if there are x 2 of you pitching).

What's the best and quickest way, please?

I'm tempted to buy one. Will I be disappointed? Will it be a pain to pitch? Are those poles strong enough and durable enough to lift and support the weight of a polycotton type canvas?


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Bearing in mind that this tent has Alloy legs, with fibreglass middle section over the roof arc.

I prefer....

Peg out 4 corners, loosely.
(Undo doors to allow air to get in when it get's stood up.)
Insert all 3 fibreglass roof poles.
Then insert the legs to the middle pole, ring and pin, (inc. tighten the adjuster strap) and stand upright. At this stage, if the pole won't stand up on it's own, pull out the base corners... it will then! :-)
Then the legs to the front pole, ring and pin, and tighten strap.
Then the same to rear pole.
Now fully tighten the 4 corners, straighten the line of the legs, peg out, and guy.

With a lot of to-ing and fro-ing, this can be done solo, without straining the material, the poles, or indeed the pitcher themselves...... but it must be said, it is a lot more graceful doing it with one person each side. :-)

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12/3/2013 at 1:59pm
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as mucker... I have the frinton 5 though..just wider.. but I put the front frame up first then the middle, then the back, then the porch. if there is a breeze you could do it in reverse... best to back tent into wind... open bedroom vent and put rear frame up first.. the breeze will go in the vent and inflate the tent...

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12/3/2013 at 2:30pm
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Fantastic, saves me starting a thread.


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I wrote an article on solo pitching a steel poled tunnel a while back. It may be of use to you.

You can find it here



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I also peg the 4 corners then with the doors open put front pole in first and lift the tent as it's by the door so easy for air to get in then carry on towards the rear close all the doors and peg out

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12/3/2013 at 5:26pm
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The tent can definitely be pitched by one person. The method I use is as previously described (4 corner or Gary Cross Camping method ). I would imagine the concertina method would be very difficult and have never pitched a tent this way.

I've personally not found any problems with the poles.


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12/3/2013 at 6:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 12/3/2013Bearing in mind that this tent has Alloy legs, with fibreglass middle section over the roof arc.

I prefer....

Peg out 4 corners, loosely.
(Undo doors to allow air to get in when it get's stood up.)
Insert all 3 fibreglass roof poles.
Then insert the legs to the middle pole, ring and pin, (inc. tighten the adjuster strap) and stand upright. At this stage, if the pole won't stand up on it's own, pull out the base corners... it will then! :-)
Then the legs to the front pole, ring and pin, and tighten strap.
Then the same to rear pole.
Now fully tighten the 4 corners, straighten the line of the legs, peg out, and guy.

With a lot of to-ing and fro-ing, this can be done solo, without straining the material, the poles, or indeed the pitcher themselves...... but it must be said, it is a lot more graceful doing it with one person each side. :-)




Whoops, my mistake!!

As per Des & Don-Maureen, I too put the front pole up first, to let the air open the tent out.

On the bigger, oh so heavier, 5 poled Filey 6 classic (which are full poles, not just "legs").... THEN I put middle pole up first.... just to take some weight, as much as anything.

Apologies for any confusion. :-(

Whenever I lay the tent out, I have to stare at it for 30 seconds, scratch my head, and remind myself which tent I have, and which way to pitch it!!

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Mcguire
I tried the concertina method definitely a 2 person job and not that easy to do

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 12/3/2013
Bearing in mind that this tent has Alloy legs, with fibreglass middle section over the roof arc.



Are you sure? Info I've found states dynaflex (fibreglass, presumably) and dynasteel (steel, surely?)

Thanks for your reply, though!


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Quote: Originally posted by arsenaldes on 12/3/2013
I also peg the 4 corners then with the doors open put front pole in first and lift the tent as it's by the door so easy for air to get in then carry on towards the rear close all the doors and peg out



Standing inside and lifting the tent by the door sounds logical. Do you put the other roof poles in first, or just insert them as you go along?


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Quote: Originally posted by JimCall on 12/3/2013
I wrote an article on solo pitching a steel poled tunnel a while back. It may be of use to you.

You can find it here





That's interesting as well, thank you. Not unlike the manner in which you pitch a frame tent, only from the outside in instead of the inside out (if you know what I mean! )


12/3/2013 at 8:54pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 12/3/2013
Quote: Originally posted by arsenaldes on 12/3/2013I also peg the 4 corners then with the doors open put front pole in first and lift the tent as it's by the door so easy for air to get in then carry on towards the rear close all the doors and peg out



Standing inside and lifting the tent by the door sounds logical. Do you put the other roof poles in first, or just insert them as you go along?



Arsenaldes probably means all lifting is done outside the tent. It's not like a canvas frame tent where you part build the frame first then drape the canvas over the frame. It's a completely different method. Posted a video which shows the principal/method

Cross Camping Pitching Method


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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 12/3/2013
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 12/3/2013Bearing in mind that this tent has Alloy legs, with fibreglass middle section over the roof arc.



Are you sure? Info I've found states dynaflex (fibreglass, presumably) and dynasteel (steel, surely?)

Thanks for your reply, though!



Apologies.
I just knew the roof poles were the flexible plasticy type (although nice and thick :-) ), and the legs were cold, hard, and a shiny chrome colour!!

I don't do technical!

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12/3/2013 at 9:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 12/3/2013
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 12/3/2013Bearing in mind that this tent has Alloy legs, with fibreglass middle section over the roof arc.



Are you sure? Info I've found states dynaflex (fibreglass, presumably) and dynasteel (steel, surely?)

Thanks for your reply, though!



The tent uses a combination of steel and fibreglass poles to keep the weight and cost of the tent down. Known as Dynaflex and Dynasteel, the fibreglass flex brow pole links the two steel legs to make up a whole pole, providing strength and flexibility when required.

Again this video helps explain (1:32)

here


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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 12/3/2013
Quote: Originally posted by arsenaldes on 12/3/2013I also peg the 4 corners then with the doors open put front pole in first and lift the tent as it's by the door so easy for air to get in then carry on towards the rear close all the doors and peg out



Standing inside and lifting the tent by the door sounds logical. Do you put the other roof poles in first, or just insert them as you go along?



I don't think des means it that way. I guess he is saying he leaves the door open, then inserts and raises the front pole first, as it is NEAR the door, hence letting the air in.



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