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03/6/2020 at 10:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Jamiephotovideo on 02/6/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Caligula on 01/6/2020
I do a little wild camping when I can, mostly with a canoe, so near water, and wild swimming in itself is a joy.
The whole point about wild camping...wherever....is to be discreet, and not where people are likely to come across you. To leave no evidence of your passing.



It did sound very tempting, but it looks like we're a bit premature with our plans. So I guess we'll be camping in our living room, we're not allowed to light fires in there either!!


Was wild camping yesterday..............and with a lovely fire.....buzzards, barn owls, kingfisher, otters and a grass snake. Just wonderful.



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04/6/2020 at 1:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Scaley143 on 03/6/2020
Jamie,
There's been some good advice here, and some terrifying stuff as well. Monty15 sounds quite dramatic.
However, he is quite right, wild camping is illegal in England, WITHOUT THE LAND-OWNERS PERMISSION!! (Except Dartmoor. But after spending many training exercises on the area, it's not a great place to camp).
Check out this link...http://www.wildthingspublishing.com/product/wild-guide-southern-eastern-england-book/
I have one of central England and it tells of hidden history, wild swimming places, eateries and places to wild camp!
Remember, if you're going to wild camp, do it for one night only and remove any trace of your existence.
Good luck and happy camping.



Thanks, this is a great tip! I've just bought the 'Wales and the Marches' and 'Devon, Cornwall and South West' Wild Guide books. I think we'll go to these areas and try our luck at asking local farms, but if unsuccessful than we will wild camp as considerately as we can, beach, wood ECT away from view as much as possible.


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04/6/2020 at 4:24pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Scaley143 on 03/6/2020
Jamie,
There's been some good advice here, and some terrifying stuff as well. Monty15 sounds quite dramatic.
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Yes Scaley143, I did paint a (only) slightly dramatic scenario, but better to give a novice to both camping and region a bit of a cautious outlook than lull them into a false sense of it's a doddle, only for them to find out the hard way that it's anything but.

Complying with the rules to 'only camp beyond the highest fell wall' often puts you into the kind of terrain where there is no higher wall only because it was too difficult to build one! It may be called a 'Park' (as in National Park), but it is a mountain wilderness in reality, not in any way resembling most people's notion of a 'park'.

Seen first hand (and assisted), and heard about far too many people coming to grief on the fells to be anything other than respectful of the potential to come a cropper. What often starts out as a gentle strollers path can rapidly turn into a serious rocky mountain scramble. And the weather catches out even the most knowledgeable and cautious.

All wilderness areas (National Parks or otherwise) bring there own regional hazards, I know Exmoor well enough to know that the cloud descends into absolute peasoupers and it's incredibly easy to lose your bearings and get lost without good navigation skills and map and compass, and you might only be yards from a road!


05/6/2020 at 8:03am
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I've been reading up on the interweb, wild camping isn't technically illegal, it comes under trespass laws, which are a civil matter. Found this on the below link

https://originaloutdoors.co.uk/articles/uk-wild-camping-laws-explained/

"In England and Wales you do not have the right to pitch a tent, tarp, hammock or bivvy bag on the land belonging to somebody else without the permission of that landowner. To do so without the permission of that landowner means that you are committing trespass which is a civil offence (i.e. non-arrestable). However, if you do not immediately leave when directed to do so by the landowner or somebody acting on their behalf (such as a gamekeeper or land agent, or security guard) then you may be committing a criminal offence (Aggravated Trespass) something that a Police officer can arrest you for."

Al this makes me think it's worth a shot, as long as we are considerate and respectful and move on if asked (I hope not!)

We would never camp on land clearly owned by someone without permission, and we'll definitely try the permission route first.

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