Thank you Jakers for enlightening us with the problems you get. You will not be alone, we were forced to abandon one of our favourite sites due to the sort of behaviour you have outlined, due to possibly the site owner treading a cautious line.
Whilst I have the utmost respect for what you are trying to achieve, unless the owners crack down on those who choose to ignore the rules, the situation will not improve. We can assist the owners by reporting to them the incidents of gross rule breaking and hope they react.
The problem is not going to go away, but unless some action is taken it will get much worse with the likelyhood that some site owners just give up. Perhaps we could encourage an UK Campsites Code of Conduct which sites could use and we could abide by.
Thank you for reading.
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Quote: Originally posted by Brownie73 on 07/6/2012
Biggest noise problem we have found is the use of the giant flags some like to put up on windy nights all you hear is the wind howling through the ropes and the flags flapping do I complain not really the other campers have paid to use the site and have just the same rights as me
Everyone is entitled to a opinion
They may have paid but their actions are impacting on you, needlessly so. It is thoughtless at best.
It's just not camp sites where you get problems with people staying. My wife and I used to run a guest house in Keswick and while the vast majority of people were great and never a problem and came back time and time again I did have to throw out the odd idiot because their behavior was unacceptable. Now I'm not a small bloke and I'm ex forces so I didn't have too many people argue with me but some other guest houses were run by women (sometimes on their own) so we had a network where information on "bad guests" could be passed on so others didn't have to suffer. It was also useful for those who might need some "moral support" with some of their guests. I'm sure Jakers and others in the same line of work could tell a good tale or two about the experiences they've had, I know we could, but that's another story.
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We have all read and maybe debated the problems caused by children and dogs. That problem is here to stay and we will just have to accept there isn't a 100% solution.
I hope that what I am about to explain doesn't become a regular nusiance.
Picture the scene, 5.30pm and after a glorious sunny day I am just enjoying the peace and quiet of the site and nodding off. Then on the next pitch, a visitor, the owner of a large BMW 4 x 4 starts up his car. At 5.45pm the engine is still running, I was about to go and get the site warden when the owner came to the car. I asked him if he could turn off the engine. "Sorry, we are just going out in a minute so won't be long". "So why have you let the engine run constantly for 15 mins then". "I have 3 small boys and I'm keeping them cool with the air con". After a few more verbal exchanges he stormed off and a few minutes later drove away.
The whole episode was one of total inconsideration of those around him. The pitch had it's own shade from trees plus the caravan had an awning. There was no cause for this action.
Two more issues came to light over this. 1 Leaving small children in a car alone with the engine running beggars belief. 2 The sign outside the wardens office said, " All visitors cars must be left in the car park and not driven onto a pitch". So he couldn't read either.
There's nothing worse than listening to a deisel engine running when it's not necessary.
Let's hope this is was one off. Please have considerastion for the people around you when on site.
harryb
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Quote: Deisel exhaust fumes can bring on an asthma attack particularly where the car is motionless and is just churning the stuff out, with little air movement to disperse it.
Diesel particulates are carcinogenic. Many towns have bye laws which prohibit vehicles parked up with engines running, but these are never enforced.
Quote: Phil
ps whee does he get his deisel so cheap he can run it for 15 minutes?
If he gets 45mpg from his BMW and the car isn't moving, then he's not affecting his fuel consumption.
Like most BMW's, and their owners, rules don't apply to them, such as using indicators, mobile phones, seat belts etc.
The more expensive and the bigger the car, the bigger the ego.
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.and for all those who posted in support of the chap running his deisel engine
Think I rest my case
Phil
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Quote: Originally posted by Bridgelayer on 14/6/2012
...Many towns have bye laws which prohibit vehicles parked up with engines running, but these are never enforced.
Not just local byelaws - "The Driver and the Environment. You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road. Generally, if the vehicle is stationary and is likely to remain so for more than a couple of minutes, you should apply the parking brake and switch off the engine to reduce emissions and noise pollution. However it is permissible to leave the engine running if the vehicle is stationary in traffic or for diagnosing faults.
Having seen a parked car with everything switched off catch fire I would never leave a child or an animal in a car on its own.
The idea of leaving an engine running with aircon on and children in it on their own is even more shocking, not least as the car could be stolen with the kids.
Unfortunately we have also noticed a change in attitude of people on sites, total lack of consideration for others, and people are right it does seam to tie in with the bigger vehicles. Not always though.
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Topic: A New Site Nusiance
