I too agree with Elanman, I reguarly have my food shopping delivered and have had it delivered twice onto a campsite. It works for us and nobody has the right to criticise us for that. We arent lazy, we dont have the space to transport food and I hate supermarkets at the best of times. To have to find a supermarket with a special needs son after a long drive stresses me.
If I do have shopping delivered I wouldnt expect a warden to direct the driver to me. I take responsibility for my own actions.
I'm obviously in the minority here.
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Quote: Originally posted by elanman on 28/10/2011
Ohh you mean wardens might have to do something rather than just sit in their hut or tend their window boxes. Typical, you pay their wages as fees why cant they direct the driver to the pitch. If they arrive early they can ask them to wait, thats why they have a time slot and sometimes drivers chance it they can go early. If you ask them to come back at the alloted time its not an issue. But accepting deliveries seems its more than a "jobsworth" CC warden will do. Typical! Why spend your holiday shopping. Isnt the supermarket that delivers "local". Its all about a bit of give and take, your hardly going to have a site full of ASDA vans. A few incidents mean yet another "rule" in the cc rule book. Geesh its supposed to be a holiday not a labour camp they need to lighen up - dont they realise they work in a service industry.
Quote: Originally posted by elanman on 31/10/2011
The implications are there - if you shop on the internet your "not grown up" you "cant organise your life", your "too lazy to plan", "you cant be bothered to shop" etc. I found it quite a vitriol against those folks who just do things differently. Shopping on the internet can be just as much hastle but people might have their reasons. But hey perhaps some folks dont like people doing things differently. On another forum someone described asking a private site if they allowed deliveries and the owner replied with a positive yes and knew the tesco driver, had a system and it was no problemo. Not a single post has mentioned that they found the delivery vans a nuisance, noisey and got in the way. I doubt any have even spotted them as they are probabally quite rare. All those who agreed with the cc club were just derogatory to those who wanted to have a delivery and a rather snide and personal way (well if I dont do it that way why would anyone " - attitude) , nothing to do with the reasons why cc banned them. Thats my point. They probabally had good reason but sl*gging of those who would like to shop that way is not one of them.
At the risk of being off topic here, you seem to do a very good job yourself of criticising (vitriol in your own words), and being derogatory, to the CC in this instance. Yet you seem rather intolerant of others voicing their opinion on this subject.
This is a discussion forum, so inevitably people will voice their opinions on the matter.
I think this is another example of a small minority of online shoppers causing problems for the majority of people who want to use this service. Whilst I would never use supermarket home delivery on a campsite myself as I do actually like to see what I am buying and rarely use it at home either I can see that for some people this may be the only way they can have a stress free holiday.
However it should not be the responsibility of the warden to sign for and look after the shopping if the camper has not arrived, nor should he have to show the van to a pitch, or even allow the van to drive onto the site. The camper should have to walk to the entrance (or drive to the entrance if necessary) to collect their shopping themselves.
We have used a take-away delivery service to deliver a meal to our pitch on a campsite, but we would have been happy to walk to the entrance to collect it had this service not been allowed.
I do think that all you "anti" people should take a step back.
Surely all it needs is a few sensible guidelines.
I only ever have my grocery shopping delivered, I use Occado, Waitrose and Tesco, in the last six years I have hardly set foot in a supermarket and have NEVER had a problem with my deliveries.
When I go on to a site we inform the warden we are expecting a delivery, we give the supermarket our mobile phone number and when he arrives (after checking with the warden) we escort the driver to our pitch unload the shopping (in about 3 minutes) and then escort him off the
site. Why does the warden ever need to get involved? If someone who has ordered the shopping is missing from the site the delivery driver should be sent away, exactly the same would happen at home.
As it happens I am a wheelchair user and find going to the shops difficult.
I fail to see how it increases traffic, if the shopping is not delivered I would have to drive to get the groceries.
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Firstly, I fully agree that,as with a lot of things,guidelines SHOULD be sufficient,however they(CC) have obviously had some problems with delivery vans,otherwise they'd still be allowing them.We all know it can be bad enough trying to shoehorn your van onto some sites as it is,especially if several vans/Mhs have turned up at the same time,let alone adding delivery van into the mix.(..and besides,even you posted that you'd still get yours' delivered and the van would block the gate! )..
...and just because,as a user of this service,you haven't witnessed any problems,that doesn't mean that they haven't happened(...after all,you aren't sitting by the gate,monitoring any "backlog"..or taking the flak from "Fred and Ethel" because they've had to struggle and squeeze past a Tesco van to get in..).
So,hence the need for "rules"...
Also I would've thought that the warden would need to been involved,when a "strange" vehicle is entering the site,otherwise that delivery vehicle would not be "authorised" to be on site...?
I haven't anything against "home" deliveries as such,it's just that what's struck me(and I think has probably struck a good few others),are some of the respones from the "pro" lobby...Now if they had have been along the lines of "..that's a pity,as I found them handy.." or "..never mind,we'll just just go back to taking stuff with us.. " etc,then fair enough...but they haven't..
They've seemed to have had an air of, "..But how am I going to manage?...we've got kids you know!...I'm too tired to shop,I've driven a long way..!"...etc etc...
..and not forgetting the posts that have just generally sl*gged off the CC for having too many rules....
Oh!.just remembered another one "..we're thinking of our payload..."..
..Really?..people can somehow manage to find room for all that "must have" camping tat and yet they haven't the payload or room for a couple of carrier bags of food shopping?
I've never used a supermarket delivery service at home or away. Wife likes to go and choose herself. When going to a site, we usually take a little bit of food (and drink) to last us for 24 hours. When we've got set up then we sometimes go food shopping straight away or leave it until the next day. With many supermarkets open 24 hours it's not a big deal to get food when you want it. I sometimes find it difficult to estimate time of arrival on a site in order to plan a food delivery (especially with the possibility of a totorway hold up), and I don't think I would welcome a delivery man who would inevitably turn up just at that vital point when we were putting up the awning.
A small bag of food (and drink) to last 24 hours or so, works for us, so the new CC ban on deliveries will not affect us.
The thing that did grate was when one person reported that the CC said it was due to 'health and safety'. This 'health and safety' bandwaggon seems to me like a annoyingly convenient 21st century handle on which to hang absolutely everything that can't be pegged elsewhere. Shame on the CC for not just saying it's because of the inconvenience to already over worked and under paid wardens and for the effect it might have for the security on site..... but 'health and safety'!!
Firstly, I fully agree that,as with a lot of things,guidelines SHOULD be sufficient,however they(CC) have obviously had some problems with delivery vans,otherwise they'd still be allowing them.We all know it can be bad enough trying to shoehorn your van onto some sites as it is,especially if several vans/Mhs have turned up at the same time,let alone adding delivery van into the mix.(..and besides,even you posted that you'd still get yours' delivered and the van would block the gate! )..
...and just because,as a user of this service,you haven't witnessed any problems,that doesn't mean that they haven't happened(...after all,you aren't sitting by the gate,monitoring any "backlog"..or taking the flak from "Fred and Ethel" because they've had to struggle and squeeze past a Tesco van to get in..).
So,hence the need for "rules"...
Also I would've thought that the warden would need to been involved,when a "strange" vehicle is entering the site,otherwise that delivery vehicle would not be "authorised" to be on site...?
I haven't anything against "home" deliveries as such,it's just that what's struck me(and I think has probably struck a good few others),are some of the respones from the "pro" lobby...Now if they had have been along the lines of "..that's a pity,as I found them handy.." or "..never mind,we'll just just go back to taking stuff with us.. " etc,then fair enough...but they haven't..
They've seemed to have had an air of, "..But how am I going to manage?...we've got kids you know!...I'm too tired to shop,I've driven a long way..!"...etc etc...
..and not forgetting the posts that have just generally sl*gged off the CC for having too many rules....
Oh!.just remembered another one "..we're thinking of our payload..."..
..Really?..people can somehow manage to find room for all that "must have" camping tat and yet they haven't the payload or room for a couple of carrier bags of food shopping?
Behave...
Post last edited on 02/11/2011 10:38:42
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As I have clearly said pepe63 the only involvement the Warden has is when we inform him that we are expecting a delivery and asking his permission to escort the vehicle on to the site.
Quote: Originally posted by davann on 01/11/2011
I do think that all you "anti" people should take a step back. Surely all it needs is a few sensible guidelines. I only ever have my grocery shopping delivered, I use Occado, Waitrose and Tesco, in the last six years I have hardly set foot in a supermarket and have NEVER had a problem with my deliveries. When I go on to a site we inform the warden we are expecting a delivery, we give the supermarket our mobile phone number and when he arrives (after checking with the warden) we escort the driver to our pitch unload the shopping (in about 3 minutes) and then escort him off the site. Why does the warden ever need to get involved? If someone who has ordered the shopping is missing from the site the delivery driver should be sent away, exactly the same would happen at home. As it happens I am a wheelchair user and find going to the shops difficult. I fail to see how it increases traffic, if the shopping is not delivered I would have to drive to get the groceries.
If everyone had done this I doubt there would have been a problem. Unfortunately it seems that not all CC members have acted like you did.
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