The CC site rules say "outfits bearing advertising material, other than normal manufacturers' transfers or plates (ie who made the van) are not allowed on Club sites". But the C&CC rules go into more detail - "touting and commenrcial advertising is not allowed, no advertising notices should be displayed" but then they go on to say specifically "a firm's car or van, which has the firm's name and description on the sides, is acceptable at sites".
So the way I see it from this is that there may be some licencing or planning restrictions on displaying adverts that some sites (and the CC) just take the easy way out and say no commercial vehicles, whereas the C&CC are being more sensible about it. Mind you, the CC probably think commercial vehicles lower the tone anyway.
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We run a dog walking business, and have a van that is sign written, th CC & C goy my money because of their policies on commercial vehicles, but i jave also just booked here for September, and they have no problem with our transit and 5 dogs
There are more and more people that are using vans as their sole means of transport, especially among the dog owning public, this group are also more likely to stay in this country for thei hols, so you may find some of the policies changing
I thought it was more to do with people acting in a commercial capacity, ie making money from being there. So you cant open up a burger van or have a promotional vechicle whose purpose is advertising to campers - like a coke van or Sky sports promotional vechicle etc. Stops GO Outdoors having a fleet of vans camping onsite advertising their company to campers. I would say that a plumbers van is not acting in a commerical capacity when its on a campsite so in that point in time it is not a "commercial" vechicle. I guess it also stops big box vans also.
well i tow with my vivaro van but i always ring the site before hand never had a problem but never book the ones that say no commercials because i find it very vanist wot i find worse is people towing with small cars overloaded with baggage and young ones putting all of us at risk , common scence can be a wonderfull thing rant over , deano
Evenstephen got it right... Many sites,particularly ones in National Parks and such like, have planning and licensing restrictions relating to signwritten vehicles i.e. advertising.
Well regards vans on sites there are two sides to a coin,this happen 4 weeks ago on a lovely site in lancashire i can supply the name of the site and the telephone number so its not a tale.A lovely white ford transit van with a caravan in tow turned up with the nicest couple you ever seen ask the site owner any vacancies for one night,so he said yes no problem ,paid him in return he gave them a fob for the safety barrier.During the night another two ford transits with caravans turned up without the knowledge of the site owner o yes you guessed it TINKERS for three weeks they dug their heels in for free site, no problem you say get the police,sorry sir we cant do anything they on private land you got to get a court injunction at the cost of £2000,the poor man was in tears everyone was complaining about these three vans and the poor man could do nothing only looking at his business going down the drain.Now then i know you cant tar everyone with the same brush but is it a wonder that site owners wont let vans on, by the way one of the vans was a blue gas van.Seeing what i saw and if i was a site owner it would be a snowball chance in hell of any van getting on my site
em
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Tinkers are just as likely to tow with 4 x 4's these days, or big cars, we joined the c & c club, because of there ruling's on vans, am also going to a site in Dumfries that have no problem taking us
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4busdriver on 08/8/2012
Evenstephen got it right... Many sites,particularly ones in National Parks and such like, have planning and licensing restrictions relating to signwritten vehicles i.e. advertising.
I don't get this, would we be asked to leave if we were to park in say a carpark within the National park? its exactly the same amount of advertising
Quote: Originally posted by welshrover on 08/8/2012
Well regards vans on sites there are two sides to a coin,this happen 4 weeks ago on a lovely site in lancashire i can supply the name of the site and the telephone number so its not a tale.A lovely white ford transit van with a caravan in tow turned up with the nicest couple you ever seen ask the site owner any vacancies for one night,so he said yes no problem ,paid him in return he gave them a fob for the safety barrier.During the night another two ford transits with caravans turned up without the knowledge of the site owner o yes you guessed it TINKERS for three weeks they dug their heels in for free site, no problem you say get the police,sorry sir we cant do anything they on private land you got to get a court injunction at the cost of £2000,the poor man was in tears everyone was complaining about these three vans and the poor man could do nothing only looking at his business going down the drain.Now then i know you cant tar everyone with the same brush but is it a wonder that site owners wont let vans on, by the way one of the vans was a blue gas van.Seeing what i saw and if i was a site owner it would be a snowball chance in hell of any van getting on my site
em
Had a similar explanation given by a site owner a couple of years back as to why he would not take commercial vehicles, signwritten or not, to a couple that turned up in a very large transit type van, plain white. He did phone to find them another site, though.
The C&CC do seem more reasonable in their approach.
Would I want to pitch my wee tent amidst a whole lot of tranny type vans - no, thank you.
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Iv have been turned down by some sites as we have a white Transit, but i call or email and tell them exactly what we use our van for, its description and who and what we will carry.Im prepared to send other details if i have to.
Some of the bigger commercial sites state it in the bookings or T&C terms.If i cannot find it i email.
We have had replies from ' its not the vehicle its the people that count' to a flat 'no it makes the site look like a builders yard'
One one occasion we left a day early to make a day of going home ,owener gave us a refund for the last day as she thought we were dissapointed in her beautiful site.
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It can be tricky and not what you think (the demographic thing mentioned above). We fix computers and so do our friends. They got turned away form one site for having a family car with their logo & phone number, we were halfway up the motorway to join them & there had to be a swift change of plan mid-stream, so to speak.
Where we go in France, however, there's a fine crop of (mainly Dutch) commercial vehicles.
So where do you draw the line on what constitutes a commercial vehicle? On several occasions recently I've seen crew cab 4x4 pick ups on site with the owners business displayed on the vehicle. They obviously double up for business and private use.
Lizzy23...car parks are just that..a place to stop for a limited time.. Caravan and Campsites have to comply with many rules and regulations, some of which can seem very strange to outsiders
pretty much every site we've gone to has this policy - and alomost every trip our friends we go with us bring their car and the husband meets us later on the first evening coming from work - in his work van.
Its a Transit type thingy, always brand new, yes it has signwriting, but he's NEVER been told to get it moved despite their own rules.
If they enforce only one car with the tent then it stays in the carpark, but if its somewhere like Blanklands Farm which is pitch and park wherever - well it gets parked up behind the tent.
I agree with you, I have got a converted transit van which I did myself. there are a few sites that will accept it but some that will only want the "professionally" converted ones.
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Topic: Commercial vehicles on campsites
