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09/1/2023 at 2:41pm
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Seasonal pitch Electricity Prices.

Are we being unfairly treated?

Have they recently installed meters on your pitch?
Were they already installed?

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If recently installed, what are they charging you per unit?

How much is your annual seasonal cost?


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If already installed prior to price hikes:

What were you paying per unit 12 months ago, what is it now?

How much are your annual seasonal cost?

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via mobile 09/1/2023 at 2:53pm
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No idea, but you may get more replies if you put this in the static caravan section. Most people (like me) will think you are referring to touring caravan pitches.


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AFAIK it is illegal to resell electricity at a greater price than that paid from the supplier, that obviously only applies to a metered supply charged per unit. A un-metered supply charged at a block rate for the facility can be at any fee the site decides and the user accepts. This would typically be like the say £5/night (or whatever fee) that touring sites often charge for EHU, that can amount to effectively a much higher charge per unit than a metered supply would be for actual usage!

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications/resale-gas-and-electricity-guidance-maximum-........

The actual cost may vary though, depending on supplier AND the supply contract, many (most!) campsites will be on commercial contracts that fall outside price caps applied to domestic contracts, so the cost/unit may be higher that a normal domestic rate, even though to all intense and purposes the end user is using it for such.

To judge whether the site is charging a legal/fair rate, you'd likely need to know what their contract with supplier details were.


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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 09/1/2023
No idea, but you may get more replies if you put this in the static caravan section. Most people (like me) will think you are referring to touring caravan pitches.



The OP starts by saying “Seasonal pitch Electricity Prices.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 09/1/2023
No idea, but you may get more replies if you put this in the static caravan section. Most people (like me) will think you are referring to touring caravan pitches.



You are correct in assuming touring so no need to be moved.

So yes touring sites but on a seasonal pitch


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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 09/1/2023
Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 09/1/2023
No idea, but you may get more replies if you put this in the static caravan section. Most people (like me) will think you are referring to touring caravan pitches.



The OP starts by saying “Seasonal pitch Electricity Prices.



Thank you



via mobile 09/1/2023 at 7:08pm
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Should have read it properly!


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One needs to remember that the site will be paying business rates per kwh and not domestic so will be a lot higher than at home especially since the latest increase in January. Therefore £0.50 per kwh or £5 for 24 hours would be a very good rate to pay.


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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 10/1/2023
One needs to remember that the site will be paying business rates per kwh and not domestic so will be a lot higher than at home especially since the latest increase in January. Therefore £0.50 per kwh or £5 for 24 hours would be a very good rate to pay.



Hoping to hear from people’s actual recent experiences.

We are paying 72p which according to the site is heavily subsidised.


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Quote: Originally posted by Elextric on 10/1/2023
Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 10/1/2023
One needs to remember that the site will be paying business rates per kwh and not domestic so will be a lot higher than at home especially since the latest increase in January. Therefore £0.50 per kwh or £5 for 24 hours would be a very good rate to pay.



Hoping to hear from people’s actual recent experiences.

We are paying 72p which according to the site is heavily subsidised.



That is probably about correct as the site will have either a HH supply especially if they have statics on site or the other method is to use 3 phase supply both of which are commercial.

We have a touring caravan and are seriously contemplating fitting a lithium battery which will last a couple of days especially if you have solar panels. You can then still do all the normal things with a decent inverter and minimise EHU usage.

The lithium comes at a price, but at current kwh prices it will take about 2 years to break even if you go out often or on a seasonal site.


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we have just booked a site last time we went there the electric was included with the pitch price. they have now installed meters the pitch price is the same the electric is currently 70p/unit


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Quote: Originally posted by cliffbrown on 14/1/2023
we have just booked a site last time we went there the electric was included with the pitch price. they have now installed meters the pitch price is the same the electric is currently 70p/unit



at cliffbrown thanks for taking the time to reply.

I think this figure is going to be typical.

I asked the question in my OP “are we being ripped off”
The sad thing is it certainly makes winter caravanning a different ball game but I DO NOT BLAME SITE OWNERS.

Going away now for nights when the temp swing can be -2 to 3 over 24hrs can certainly clock up a lot of units.

To heat a large twin axle in these conditions one has to have the boiler set to 2kw, plus the fridge etc it’s easy to be pulling 2.5kw/hr

Yes once the van is heated up it goes on and off on the stat but it still runs about 50%+ of the time.

Again thanks for your response.


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Quote: Originally posted by Elextric on 14/1/2023
I asked the question in my OP “are we being ripped off”
The sad thing is it certainly makes winter caravanning a different ball game but I DO NOT BLAME SITE OWNERS.

Going away now for nights when the temp swing can be -2 to 3 over 24hrs can certainly clock up a lot of units.

To heat a large twin axle in these conditions one has to have the boiler set to 2kw, plus the fridge etc it’s easy to be pulling 2.5kw/hr

Yes once the van is heated up it goes on and off on the stat but it still runs about 50%+ of the time.

Again thanks for your response.




Maybe it is time to consider purchasing a refillable Safefill gas cylinder. We have a 7.5kg bottle and it can last a couple of days if used for heating. To refill ours cost about £10.


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One thing to remember is that the price you pay per Kwh cannot be higher than the price the campsite pays for it. Whilst they are allowed to make reasonable service charges they cannot charge more per electricity unit than they pay their own energy supplier.


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Quote: Originally posted by martin734 on 14/1/2023
One thing to remember is that the price you pay per Kwh cannot be higher than the price the campsite pays for it. Whilst they are allowed to make reasonable service charges they cannot charge more per electricity unit than they pay their own energy supplier.



This common assumption is not completely accurate. The link below discusses a mechanism that avoids that constraint.

https://blueskyrecreation.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/electric-hookup-charges-how-much-is-legal/


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Quote: Originally posted by Wendyhouse on 14/1/2023
Quote: Originally posted by martin734 on 14/1/2023
One thing to remember is that the price you pay per Kwh cannot be higher than the price the campsite pays for it. Whilst they are allowed to make reasonable service charges they cannot charge more per electricity unit than they pay their own energy supplier.



This common assumption is not completely accurate. The link below discusses a mechanism that avoids that constraint.

https://blueskyrecreation.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/electric-hookup-charges-how-much-is-legal/



That applies to all inclusive and flat rate pitch fees. If you are on a metered pitch which is what this thread is about then the MRP does apply.



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