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Subject Topic: Metered electric cost per Kw/hr Seasonal
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18/1/2023 at 8:24pm
 Location: west midlands
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Just a query,we were looking at taking up a seasonal pitch near Matlock, on getting the information re this very surprised to see the limit set on how many nights you can spend,the site stated that could only use seasonal pitch for 110 nights over the year ,if wanted to stay any more than that would have to pay the night rate per stay .
My question is are all seasonal pitches at any site set limits on staying when paying £3k per year

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18/1/2023 at 8:30pm
 Location: west midlands
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We stayed at site near Ashbourne and upon arrival we were informed that they had installed pitch meters,but because we had booked before installation that we would not be charged the meter rate.
The owners did take a reading and gave this to us to show how much we had used .
They did advise that they were charging 39p per unit.
We used 245 units over the 4 nights, but they did say that someone had used 1000 units over a two night stay .

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via mobile 18/1/2023 at 8:34pm
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I think it might be the norm meters for electric


via mobile 18/1/2023 at 8:46pm
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It seems that many sites are installing meters where so many units (often 10, rarely 20) are included in the price per night. Go over, you pay the difference. Seems fair enough. A site I have my eye on gives 12, which is probably enough without going over the limit.


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via mobile 18/1/2023 at 8:53pm
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You can understand it free electric is give and take some use loads some don't and as the price increase it makes sense but sites have had to pay for the installation of meters how long will it be before they replay the cost


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via mobile 18/1/2023 at 11:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by cliffbrown on 18/1/2023
You can understand it free electric is give and take some use loads some don't and as the price increase it makes sense but sites have had to pay for the installation of meters how long will it be before they replay the cost



Yes as Iíve said in one of my replies here, Iím not complaining about what is happening just trying to see what others recent experiences are.


via mobile 18/1/2023 at 11:37pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mario snr on 18/1/2023
We stayed at site near Ashbourne and upon arrival we were informed that they had installed pitch meters,but because we had booked before installation that we would not be charged the meter rate.
The owners did take a reading and gave this to us to show how much we had used .
They did advise that they were charging 39p per unit.
We used 245 units over the 4 nights, but they did say that someone had used 1000 units over a two night stay .



39p is very reasonable at the moment it would seem.

The two figures you mention:
245 for 4 nights for you if paid at 39p = £95
at the 70 ish pence youíll be paying £170 ish

The 1000 in 2 days is false
If they were there for 48hrs thatís 21kw an hour 😂
Pitches are usually limited to 10amps

And would cost £390 or £700 at the two rates



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via mobile 18/1/2023 at 11:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 14/1/2023
Quote: Originally posted by Elextric on 14/1/2023
I asked the question in my OP ďare we being ripped offĒ
The sad thing is it certainly makes winter caravanning a different ball game but I DO NOT BLAME SITE OWNERS.

Going away now for nights when the temp swing can be -2 to 3 over 24hrs can certainly clock up a lot of units.

To heat a large twin axle in these conditions one has to have the boiler set to 2kw, plus the fridge etc itís easy to be pulling 2.5kw/hr

Yes once the van is heated up it goes on and off on the stat but it still runs about 50%+ of the time.

Again thanks for your response.




Maybe it is time to consider purchasing a refillable Safefill gas cylinder. We have a 7.5kg bottle and it can last a couple of days if used for heating. To refill ours cost about £10.



Iíve not heard of ďSafefillĒ gas cylinders.
That sounds very good way to go to me.

I will have to Google, obviously there will be an upfront cost for the cylinders and depends if itís available in your area?

Thanks


19/1/2023 at 10:31am
 Location: Worcestershire
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Quote: Originally posted by Elextric on 18/1/2023
Iíve not heard of ďSafefillĒ gas cylinders.
That sounds very good way to go to me.

I will have to Google, obviously there will be an upfront cost for the cylinders and depends if itís available in your area?

Thanks



Yes there is an upfront cost of about £180 however to refill a 7.5kg bottle costs less then £10. The Safefill bottles are very much in demand.To get up to date info if you are on FB search for Safefill info and refill stations. Safefill also have their own website.


via mobile 19/1/2023 at 10:40am
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Quote: , but they did say that someone had used 1000 units over a two night stay .



One of the reasons metered pitches are becoming the norm. Some people do abuse it.


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19/1/2023 at 1:41pm
 Location: Northamptonshire
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Quote: Originally posted by mario snr on 18/1/2023
We stayed at site near Ashbourne and upon arrival we were informed that they had installed pitch meters,but because we had booked before installation that we would not be charged the meter rate.
The owners did take a reading and gave this to us to show how much we had used .
They did advise that they were charging 39p per unit.
We used 245 units over the 4 nights, but they did say that someone had used 1000 units over a two night stay .



245 units over 4 nights is an impressively large amount. That's an average of over 2.5kW during the entire 96 hour stay. More than 10amps constantly. If the owner said they had a customer use over 1000 units over two days, and had told me I had used 245 in 4 days, I would have asked them to check how they are reading their meter.

1000units = 1000 kWh. Thats an average of 90A on a 220v feed for the entire 48 hour stay. Just for context, on a day I charge my car, I use about 39kWh (39 units) for the car and the entire house for 1 day.

I used 227kWh (units) for the entire Christmas week! With 7 of us in the house!



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