Should I go and asked the campsite themselves? Why if you have your own motorhome/caravan do the sites charge for a dog. We only walk them on leads as told, controlled, so why?
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Maintaining the dog walk, emptying the dog bins, etc. etc...
Grass/shrubs don't cut back from the paths by themselves, and bins are not emptied without help.
Some charge, some don't.
C&CC and CAMC club sites are free to dogs up to a certain number; however, I pay an annual membership fee to both clubs for the privilege of using their club sites.
If a site charges for dogs and is clearly stated in its pricing structure, it is down to me whether I want to pay for it or go elsewhere. I have that choice.
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Quote: Originally posted by Trishboyce on 19/8/2024
Should I go and asked the campsite themselves? Why if you have your own motorhome/caravan do the sites charge for a dog. We only walk them on leads as told, controlled, so why?
The simple answer is because they can. Some sites will charge for anything they think they can get away with, they are a business and will make extra profit any which way.
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I saw a discussion about this somewhere else and a caravan site owner replied and told us the cost for the dog poo bins to be emptied. It was eye wateringly high! If the council find dog poo in their ordinary bins they get a massive fine so they have to put several dog poo bins all around the site and these have to be emptied by a specialist company, the cost of which is partly passed on to the people who use the bins.
Quote: Originally posted by Pixie_Hez on 19/8/2024
If the council find dog poo in their ordinary bins they get a massive fine so they have to put several dog poo bins all around the site and these have to be emptied by a specialist company, the cost of which is partly passed on to the people who use the bins.
A few years ago our council, and I would imagine most other councils too, reclassified dog poo as non toxic and announced that it should be put in domestic waste bins.
Quote: Originally posted by Pixie_Hez on 19/8/2024
If the council find dog poo in their ordinary bins they get a massive fine so they have to put several dog poo bins all around the site and these have to be emptied by a specialist company, the cost of which is partly passed on to the people who use the bins.
A few years ago our council, and I would imagine most other councils too, reclassified dog poo as non toxic and announced that it should be put in domestic waste bins.
The same applies around here too, what else are people to do with it? We no longer have a dog of our own but we sometimes look after a couple of friends' dogs, and that's what we do with the "little black bags" when we come home from a walk. Just as we always did when we had our own dogs.
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Quote: Originally posted by Pixie_Hez on 19/8/2024
If the council find dog poo in their ordinary bins they get a massive fine so they have to put several dog poo bins all around the site and these have to be emptied by a specialist company, the cost of which is partly passed on to the people who use the bins.
A few years ago our council, and I would imagine most other councils too, reclassified dog poo as non toxic and announced that it should be put in domestic waste bins.
From what I remember about the discussion elsewhere, it is because the caravan site is classed as a business, and therefore there are different rules for waste disposal.
The bottom line is that a campsite, like any other business, needs to make money to survive. And however they make their money, someone won't be happy about it. For every person who says "why does my dog/child cost extra when they take up the same size pitch" there'll be another who says "there's only two of us, why do we pay the same fees as that family of 5"?
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Quote: Originally posted by SamandRose on 22/8/2024
For every person who says "why does my dog/child cost extra when they take up the same size pitch" there'll be another who says "there's only two of us, why do we pay the same fees as that family of 5"?
That is how it was when we first started camping, you paid for a pitch and what/who you had on it was up to you. Everybody just accepted it back then. After all, it's not like a hotel or an aircraft, the site does not cater for individuals, it caters for camping units. People brought their own accommodation to suit the size of their party, then just rented a piece of ground to put it on.
However, I think site operators spotted an opportunity and went for it. Now many of them charge for any "extra" that they can think of. They are businesses after all, and that's what businesses do. They are in business to make a profit, and will do so however they legally can.
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 22/8/2024
They are businesses after all, and that's what businesses do. They are in business to make a profit, and will do so however they legally can.
That's the problem, when we started camping they were not businesses, they were farmers just wanting to make a little bit of extra money as a sideline to the farm income.
Quote: Originally posted by SamandRose on 22/8/2024
For every person who says "why does my dog/child cost extra when they take up the same size pitch" there'll be another who says "there's only two of us, why do we pay the same fees as that family of 5"?
That is how it was when we first started camping, you paid for a pitch and what/who you had on it was up to you. Everybody just accepted it back then. After all, it's not like a hotel or an aircraft, the site does not cater for individuals, it caters for camping units. People brought their own accommodation to suit the size of their party, then just rented a piece of ground to put it on.
However, I think site operators spotted an opportunity and went for it. Now many of them charge for any "extra" that they can think of. They are businesses after all, and that's what businesses do. They are in business to make a profit, and will do so however they legally can.
Personally I think there are two reasons for this.
The first is money, its an easy way of getting more cash out of a large group / family.
The second I believe is to cheat the campsite search engines, you type in that you want to stay at a site with EHU that costs say £25pn, it will appear, but when you look close you have £5 per night per child, and £3 per night per dog extra. But the ploy still got you to look at the site, and there is a chance that some people may think its worth the extra after all, rather than dismissing it outright if the site had been priced higher initially.
Quote: Originally posted by Trishboyce on 19/8/2024
Should I go and asked the campsite themselves? Why if you have your own motorhome/caravan do the sites charge for a dog. We only walk them on leads as told, controlled, so why?
The simple answer is because they can. Some sites will charge for anything they think they can get away with, they are a business and will make extra profit any which way.
I think that mostly sums it up!
Recently stayed on a CAMC CL that charged an extra £1 per night for a dog, but offered NOTHING in return! .... couldn't even dispose of dog poo in site waste, had to take it up the road and deposit it in a public 'Dog Poo Bin'! They charge because they can, and people will pay!
Quote: Originally posted by RainMagnet on 23/8/2024
Personally I think there are two reasons for this.
The first is money, its an easy way of getting more cash out of a large group / family.
The second I believe is to cheat the campsite search engines, you type in that you want to stay at a site with EHU that costs say £25pn, it will appear, but when you look close you have £5 per night per child, and £3 per night per dog extra. But the ploy still got you to look at the site, and there is a chance that some people may think its worth the extra after all, rather than dismissing it outright if the site had been priced higher initially.
Which site search engine?
I’ve never come across one that asks me how much I’m looking to pay, and I can think of about 3 websites over & above UKCS (which is the best, obviously).
In all the camping I’ve done this year (Scotland & N England), I’ve not paid extra for the dog, showers, Wi-Fi or EHU : all included.
The one that is wily is CAMC which says up front “prices from £20” but then you find that’s mid winter mid week on grass with age reduction & no EHU. And suddenly it’s £45 for a weekend in summer on HS with EHU…
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