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Erm, what about THESE blatant copy of optimus(???) but claim to run off many different fuels, including gas.
Hexi burners are for kids who want to become marine commandos when they grow up, that's why my brother got one when we were younger, & now he's a gardener! So it didn't work!


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Quote: Originally posted by nutgone on 30/6/2010Erm, what about THESE blatant copy of optimus(???) but claim to run off many different fuels, including gas.


Mmmm. Looks pretty good. But I think they can be had for less money. There's another supplier in HK that sells them for around £35 inc postage. I must admit that I do fancy a diesel powered stove. Just to be different, you understand. And it would save me carting petrol around, when neither car uses petrol.

Weetabixface bought something similar to convert his Trangia to petrol. If I remember rightly, he was quite pleased with it.

Oh - and if you look at the Coleman France website, you'll see that they can buy something pretty similar too. Wonder why it's not available here ? I might just have to go shopping next time I pop over the Channel.

Z


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I did indeed buy one of those, I can't recall the exact amount but I don't think I paid that much for it and it was a UK seller rather than HK.

All of my use has been in the trangia windsheild - no idea how it performs as a stand alone stove. In the trangia I am impressed, it is noisy though but it does boil a kettle of water in gip time and has reasonable control for cooking. So far only run it on unleaded and a coleman 70:30 canister as an experiment in readiness for overseas trip later in the year.

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I thought they were quite reasonably priced, considering the price of the same unit with "Optimus" written on it! But I wanted a dual burner so opted for a 2nd hand coleman 424, & I'm chuffed to bits with it!
Those little stoves look like the ideal thing for lightweight camping to me, & will run on pretty much anything, if they run on diesel they should run on cooking oil (all my diesel cars did), & paraffin is easy enough to come by as well. A spare fuel bottle wouldn't be that heavy either, am I right in thinking they're made from aluminium?


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The burner section is steel - it glows red hot when in use and you would very quickly have a puddle of Al at that kind of temperature. The generator doesn't look like brass as is used in other stoves of this ilk, I would guess Cu/Ni but only a guess from the colour. I didn't pay much attention to the legs/pot stands but again I would say steel.

As you say it will burn just about anything, mine came with 2 nozzles - I think to accomodate different fuels - mine was without the Chingrish instructions so I was flying blind but I have not had an issue with the nozzle/fuel combinations I have tried.

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I kind of guessed the rest of it would be steel or something even stronger, but the fuel bottles are ally I think.
I'm almost annoyed to find out they're so good, wish I'd bought one as a back-up now. Maybe I will if there's enough left in the pot after my France trip.


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Trangia for me

All in one, burner & pans, the only extra you need to carry is the fuel, and the fuel been meths is widely available,

Who wants the farce of standing at a petrol pump getting soaked in uleaded, i've been there !!


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 Have taken delivery of my F1 and it's great, its really light, compact and easy to use although I will probably go for the 250 gas cannisters as I am hoping that it will last about a week  I sure don't want to  have to go looking for a stockist when I am out and the more you use it the lighter it's going to get.

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Quote: Originally posted by nutgone on 30/6/2010
Erm, what about THESE blatant copy of optimus(???) but claim to run off many different fuels, including gas.



My nova clone failed me. I have been using it off and for a while but only fuelled it once when I got it, 3/4 of a pint of unleaded goes quite a long way. Took the pump assembly out of the fuel bottle yesterday and can't get it back in. I am always very careful when (dis)assembling things - esp. when it is dissimilar materials - Al and plastic in this case. The plastic thread on the pump assembly is stripped and it keep cross-threading. Try to repair it but looks like a scrapper

So caveat emptor in this case I think

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Don't understand all this critism of solid fuel stoves. Mine works really well. I fire it up using a fuel tablet, then feed it with dry twigs [free fuel]that I find lying around. Boils water in minutes, or cans of beans etc. The adjustable metalwork is a stable cooking platform and if you wish you can easily use a meths burner in it and use the platform for your pots. packs away easy as well. Just pack it in a plastic bag to keep the smell out. Soot washes off easily. Not been told not to use it on a campsite either. Its a stove not an open fire!


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I must agree with martinwf
Another advantage is any spill just evaporates, with petrol you have a serious problem.
Hexamine blocks just don't do it for me, I like the idea of using the metal box bit with a meths burner though (for minimalists only)
Happy trekking, Stu.


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Have used most types of stoves over the years and have went back to the version I started out with..meths. I just bought a new Trangia, as has been said it all packs into the main unit/pans.Again as has been said I add 10% water to prevent soot.. I find it comparable with gas in boiling time...I also think its tactile..I love using it...



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Glad to see this thread resurrected. My coleman 424 (bought 2nd hand from a not so careful previous owner) performed brilliantly during the whole of my France trip. The 5 litres of fuel lasted me the full 5 weeks, that included cooking almost every night, more than half of my lunches & plenty of coffee every morning & throughout the day.
Obviously this isn't any good for lightweight backpacking, I always feel like a bit of an imposter on this particular section, but don't fit in with the massive tent brigade on the other "tent" forums (please don't tell them I said that! ) but a smaller coleman or other petrol type stove would still get my vote.
Each to their own of course, & I also don't have the benefit of loads of experience with the other types, although I have used them all in my time, just a long time ago.


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good to hear you had a good one nutgone, and the 424 did the job

will take a look at your blog when I have time

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We have an (old) Esbit stove that we intend to use for one night stop-overs in between main camp sites in Europe. Will save digging around in the car to extract the gas stove, cannister, saucepans, etc... Its worked well in trials so far. We use a 3 tin mess tin set. The rectangular shape sitting across the stove nicely takes any sideways flame and with proper Esbit fuel tablets it comes nicely to the boil and we can keep it boiling by using tables in succession. We use foil on top of the mess tin and a folding stove windshield for around the whole cabuddle.

Can't see any reason why we can't cook some of the quicker stuff we cook on the gas stove and possibly combine with a disposable BBQ for a more wholesome meal - but may be someone will disagree.

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I would have to go with meths as well, I have one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/swedish-army-trangia-stove-and-mess-tins-bushcraft-/310248550358?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item483c412fd6
Excellent



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