We are currently using a cheap twin burner stove with a Calor 7KG butane gas bottle and want to upgrade.
We would like a smaller gas bottle on the new setup not screw in gas that runs out after an hour or two.
The stove we are considering is the Campingaz Camping Kitchen 2 Grill & Go R Camping Stove, 2 x 2,000 Watts power, Gas Stove. The issue we have the price of the campingaz bottles are really expensive and are butane. Ideally we would like to fit this stove with the appropriate regulator for an alternative gas supplier. I have been told Flogas is the best price wise but I cannot figure out if attaching it to this stove is possible and if so what do I need to do that. I am thinking a 4.5 KG Propane bottle would meet our needs.
We have our campingaz party grill attached to patio gas. It is just an orange hose to a spike push on fitting and jubilee clips. Main thing is to get the appropriate regulator.
Your current 7kg gas should fit right on until you get a smaller tank.
The Campingaz stove you speak of does not have a built in regulator. It is no different from your current stove. It just requires the hose you have now fitted to nipple on stove with jubilee clip same as your present stove. Use the regulator & bottle you already have.
If you want to change to a Flogas bottle then you will need correct regulator for that bottle but fitting is same as your present stove & bottle. That is a length of gas hose secured with jubilee clips at each end.
I use a Campingaz 400 S Gas Stove:
https://www.campingaz.co.uk/stoves-lanterns/camping-stoves/2-burner-camping-stoves/400-s-gas-stove/SAP_2000032226.html
It uses Accerate Technology and performs better in a breeze. I think it is the best double burner stove Campingaz produce.
It is possible to buy this stove with a grill but I've found camping grills to be ineffective and not worth the extra bulk the stove has in transport and storage.
I run this stove off the smallest 4.5kg Propane bottle, Calor Gas have recovered enough of these bottle to start refilling them again.
Calor Gas distributors will allow you to exchnge your 7kg butane bottle for a 4.5kg propane one.
I bought a hose and regulator when I bought the stove. The gas bottle was £10 for collection on Ebay.
I intend to camp in April next year, far to cold for butane to work.
The Campingaz Camping Kitchen 2 Grill & Go R Camping Stove won't give a damn what refillable/exchangeable cylinder you supply if from, propane or butane, so long as the cylinder has the correct regulator on it.
By the way, a 4.5Kg cylinder is BUTANE not Propane, the Propane cylinders are 3.9Kg. In the case of Calor, it's the same physical cylinder (but painted different colour!), just the contents giving the different weights because of their differing chemical properties.
Campingaz used to be pure Butane (summer use only), but I believe is now a butane, propane and isobutane blend for year round use, but still OBSCENELY expensive, and unless you are planning European trips, where it is the only 'universally' exchangeable cylinder, there is not a lot to recommend it for UK use! At only 2.7Kg of gas, a 907 would give you about 9 hours flat out run time with the above stove. A 3.9Kg Calor or Flowgas propane would give near 13.5 hours flat out use. Clearly, 'normal' use would give much longer run times.
For either a Calor or Flogas PROPANE cylinder, your existing Butane regulator wont fit, you will need a POL 5/8” LH male fit regulator (like this: https://www.flogas.co.uk/product/37mbar-propane-regulator?c=cylinder-accessories), widely available from most camping outlets. You will also need a suitable length of 8mm bore low pressure gas hose (high pressure hose is OK, but not strictly necessary) and a couple of matching 'Jubilee' clips. It's wise to keep hose length to as short as necessary, excess length presents a trip hazard and simply more hose to suffer potential damage and leaks! Gas hose has a limited life of no more than 7 years (ideally 5 years) from manufacture (date stamped on hose), so new stove and new regulator, is the ideal time to fit a new hose too and not reuse any existing hose.
You may come across news/stories of Calor discontinuing their 4.5KG Butane and 3.9Kg Propane cylinders, well they did, beginning of last year, but bowed to user pressure and re-introduced them again latter part of last year! The hiccup in supply that caused should be all sorted my now, so you have a choice of Calor or Flowgas, but of course they are not interchangeable on exchange for refill!
You'd be daft to pay Calor/Flogas (circa £50) for a new cylinder rental agreement on a Propane cylinder. S/H cylinders are widely available on FB marketplace, ebay, classified ads etc. for far less, and fully acceptable for refill exchange. Calor no longer seem to swap cylinders between Butane and Propane groups, so you can't swap your existing 7kg Butane for a 3.9Kg Propane! Worth asking a retailer though, they may be flexible!
You can of course use up any remaining Butane you have on the new stove.
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Topic: Using a Campingaz stove with Propane
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