Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 21/2/2012
I have used the old fashioned rubberised cotton airbeds for many years and have never experienced excessive overnight deflation.
Quote: Originally posted by Eileenhoops on 21/2/2012
hi, i know its probably a silly question, but how would you inflate / deflate an intex with a built in pump, without EHU? we never use EHU, and im still searching for the perfect bed for my BIG frame !! thanks
There is a hole in the middle of the valve that will accept a normal 12 volt airbed pump and it works ive used it myself but it takes a while
We started off with an Intex flock-top inflatable mattress and found ourselves on the floor in the morning of the second day, so had to go to Argos and buy one of the rubberised cotton type ones (blue/red). That was not so wide and not so deep, but you had to be flippin' fast putting the bung in!
We then used Coleman Comfort airbeds for many years and had no problems with them. All airbeds go down a bit overnight when the temperature drops, because cold air contracts. It was simply a case of topping them up now and then at night and letting a bit out in the morning (so they didn't go pop, when it warmed up).
We liked the Coleman airbeds, so then decided to try a double height double (as you do!). Great on the first night, then seemed to need topping up every single night (I guess it was working on the more air, more to contract principle?!). So, back to a low one (another Coleman, but this time a 'Pillow Top' -with a zip on/off quilted top cover). Nice, and slightly bigger and deeper than the Coleman Comforts, but it still went a bit soft overnight, and didn't have the benefit of 2 x separate chambers like the Comforts. It was also a bigger and heavier pack size (although did come with a nifty carry bag!).
We went back to Coleman Comfort doubles for a while, then changed to self inflating mats; first the Fat Airic, then the Thermarest Basecamp XL, now the Thermarest Luxury Map XL. We've also tried a Vango 7.5cm double, along the way.
So, after all this waffle, the best airbed we've had is the Coleman Comfort double. (And the single ones our kids used). It has a valve which doesn't let all the air escape as you put the bung in and it is quite robust and reasonably priced. It only takes a minute to top it up every now and again and it's comfy, without mega deflation issues. The downside is that it is only 137cm wide, which is okay, but we like a kingsize bed if possible.
If you are on the biggish size, you could maybe get 2 x singles (great value at the moment: £14.99 with free delivery at Amazon, and fasten them together with a fitted sheet (at 85cm wide that would make a whopping 1.7m wide bed, so you'd probably need a super king sized sheet!). It's a cheapish option to try, and you could always use them for the kids if it doesn't suit you?
Quote: Originally posted by victoria1 on 14/2/2012the mythical non deflating airbed, to be honest I don't think there's such a thing! I've moved to a camp bed on legs with a SIM on top.
a Sim is full of air isnt it - there you go!
It's not the same thing at all, elanman, an airbed relies solely on air to provide support, a SIM simply draws air in to restore the foam and they don't deflate once that foam is up. You can still sleep on a punctured SIM (not half as comfy but at least you're not directly on the floor).
Quote: Originally posted by Ellesbelles1 on 21/2/2012
Quote: Originally posted by elanman on 14/2/2012
Quote: Originally posted by victoria1 on 14/2/2012
the mythical non deflating airbed, to be honest I don't think there's such a thing! I've moved to a camp bed on legs with a SIM on top.
a Sim is full of air isnt it - there you go!
It's not the same thing at all, elanman, an airbed relies solely on air to provide support, a SIM simply draws air in to restore the foam and they don't deflate once that foam is up. You can still sleep on a punctured SIM (not half as comfy but at least you're not directly on the floor).
ohh, so on a sim is it the air that supports you or the foam (or both)? Is the valve just a way to allow the air out to compress the foam a bit like those bags you store clothes in and attach a vacuum. It seems the material they make the airbeds out of is stronger o than the airbeds but perhaps they dont have as much pressure. Do you blow into the valve to inflate them? Perhaps not if they are "self inflating". I thought they were just thin airbeds. Does anyone know what the foam looks like?
Quote: Originally posted by Ellesbelles1 on 21/2/2012
Quote: Originally posted by elanman on 14/2/2012
Quote: Originally posted by victoria1 on 14/2/2012the mythical non deflating airbed, to be honest I don't think there's such a thing! I've moved to a camp bed on legs with a SIM on top.
a Sim is full of air isnt it - there you go!
It's not the same thing at all, elanman, an airbed relies solely on air to provide support, a SIM simply draws air in to restore the foam and they don't deflate once that foam is up. You can still sleep on a punctured SIM (not half as comfy but at least you're not directly on the floor).
Hi you will probably think this is a really stupid question, but could you tell me what a SIM is please
Thank you
A SIM is a Self Inflating Mat (and it isn't a stupid question at all)
Like this:
<img alt="Easy Camp Short Lite Mattress" src="https://cdn2.outdoorworld-direct.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/135x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/i/lite_mat.jpg" width=135 alt=135>
They come in a variety of sizes and thicknesses.
Lol duh, if I had spent a bit more time thinking about it.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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