Having said that, the real skill is choosing the right ones, to suit the ground/conditions.....
Just got back from a 3 nighter oop north.
Ground was decent enough soil, but obviously v soft due to the rain, rain, and more rain.
I just used (Kampa's) wire pegs through the pin rings (x2 crossed) and another through the elastics around the base.
A good Heavy 9" Rock peg to each of the four corners, and Yellow delta's to all tent guys (apart from vent guys).
Wet, wild and windy, and all held perfectly, for the whole weekend.
HOWEVER.....
In addition to the above, I also set up a smallish (Vango adventure) tarp, to extend the shelter over my side door canopy. Elasticated edge around my door arch, extending pole to front centre point, and extending poles to each wing.... all pegged down with basic yellow plastic pegs (about 8" long, with a "T" shaped cross section).
On return from a (full) day out, the tarp was clinging on for dear life, the 3 poles were lying flat out on the floor (Thankfully, they avoided any contact with the tent!!) and 3 of the 6 pegs had pulled out..... one of them had been flung about 6metres, and stuck upright in the soft ground!
Quite by chance, there was no damage, other than a soiled tarp, of course. As it was dark, I just collected it all up, and bunged it in the boot.
Now, I have no excuse, other than my sheer inexperience telling me that these plastic pegs would be good enough to hold out in this soft ground..... when they clearly wasn't! I had more than enough rock pegs and as yet, unused, brand spanking new Stainless Delta's at my disposal (I used all the nylon ones on my tent guys).
I still have no idea whether my tarp filled up with rain, and the weight pulled the pegs out, or, more likely (He says, confidently!) that the wind got hold of it.
But either way, I now know that these yellow plastic T shape pegs were not suitable for this tarp, in this (soft/wet) ground.
No harm done... but that's 100% luck, rather than judgement!
I know for a fact, that if I had put up my not-so-cheap 4m x 3m polycotton pride and joy, I would not have even considered using these plastic pegs, so why I succumbed on this occasion, Lord only knows!
Next time, for a similar scenario, I'll seriously consider getting my shiny Stainless Delta's dirty!!
PS:
As well as the standard stainless Delta peg puller, and the extended version... and a claw hammer, of course, I have found one of these have come in handy for getting out stubborn rock pegs (although I did have to open up the slot with a grinder, to fit around the peg, under the head)....
Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 27/1/2014
No I don't hang my washing out,but I do believe they make very good stakes to tie dogs to, easier than the screw in purpose ones, which I have, but rarely use. Lolol
They do! The Delta dog anchor/ tether is also ace (we've got x 2!)
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 27/1/2014
Can't beat having A Good selection, if you ask me.
Having said that, the real skill is choosing the right ones, to suit the ground/conditions.....
Just got back from a 3 nighter oop north.
Ground was decent enough soil, but obviously v soft due to the rain, rain, and more rain.
I just used (Kampa's) wire pegs through the pin rings (x2 crossed) and another through the elastics around the base.
A good Heavy 9" Rock peg to each of the four corners, and Yellow delta's to all tent guys (apart from vent guys).
Wet, wild and windy, and all held perfectly, for the whole weekend.
HOWEVER.....
In addition to the above, I also set up a smallish (Vango adventure) tarp, to extend the shelter over my side door canopy. Elasticated edge around my door arch, extending pole to front centre point, and extending poles to each wing.... all pegged down with basic yellow plastic pegs (about 8" long, with a "T" shaped cross section).
On return from a (full) day out, the tarp was clinging on for dear life, the 3 poles were lying flat out on the floor (Thankfully, they avoided any contact with the tent!!) and 3 of the 6 pegs had pulled out..... one of them had been flung about 6metres, and stuck upright in the soft ground!
Quite by chance, there was no damage, other than a soiled tarp, of course. As it was dark, I just collected it all up, and bunged it in the boot.
Now, I have no excuse, other than my sheer inexperience telling me that these plastic pegs would be good enough to hold out in this soft ground..... when they clearly wasn't! I had more than enough rock pegs and as yet, unused, brand spanking new Stainless Delta's at my disposal (I used all the nylon ones on my tent guys).
I still have no idea whether my tarp filled up with rain, and the weight pulled the pegs out, or, more likely (He says, confidently!) that the wind got hold of it.
But either way, I now know that these yellow plastic T shape pegs were not suitable for this tarp, in this (soft/wet) ground.
No harm done... but that's 100% luck, rather than judgement!
I know for a fact, that if I had put up my not-so-cheap 4m x 3m polycotton pride and joy, I would not have even considered using these plastic pegs, so why I succumbed on this occasion, Lord only knows!
Next time, for a similar scenario, I'll seriously consider getting my shiny Stainless Delta's dirty!!
Did you have a good time? Which site did you visit?
Yep, reckon your canopy would still be as squeaky clean as your stainless Delta pegs, if only you'd used 'em to secure it!
Brill thanks, Lidds.... despite the weather! (In fairness, we'd checked the forecast, so we knew what was coming... but just thought sod it, let's risk it! Ha, Ha!)
Made our third visit to Conifer Lake, between Hull & York.
Nice and quiet, obviously! :-) Nice flat grass pitches... No puddles anywhere, so the drainage is obviously up to scratch.
And those shiny Delta's will definitely be getting dirty, next time out!
Welcome back Mucker. Glad you had a good time. Trouble with so many types of pegs in your bag is your only human and want to try different ones out sometimes, even when we know in our head they may not be up to the job.
While camping at Thetford Forest C&CC last August, it rained heavily the first night, and I woke up to find one side of the tarp had collapsed, due to a combination of soft ground and weight of rain water on the tarp that made it sagged in the middle pulling the ridge pole inward.
After getting rid of the water collected on the tarp, I fixed the collapsed ridge pole quickly by double pegging both guys with 2 nylon Deltas at 90 deg to each other, and to reinforce the other ridge pole by double pegging too.
Later that morning, I worked out a way to prevent water from being collected on the tarp, by adding guying points in the middle of the tarp using Cling On clips, so that I can pull the tarp taut over the front part of the tent, with sufficient gradient and overhang for the rain water to run off down the side of the tent.
I was glad I had spare guys, Clam Cleat Line Loks, Cling On clips and spare pegs as part of my kit.
DK
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Quote: Originally posted by arsenaldes on 26/1/2014
Is there a reason why peggy pegs cant be driven in at an angle?
Post last edited on 26/01/2014 23:54:21
Sorry ... been away a couple of days.
They can be screwed in at any angle you like ... but there is not any need to ... use the right PP and a vertical insertion works fine as the blue clips provide the angle for the guy attachments. Habit still makes me drive them in at a slight angle .... but nothing like 45 degrees. The logic is that the deeper the peg goes, if it is threaded, the more grip it exerts .... going at an angle reduces the depth it drives to.
I've used them for three years now, on all sorts of grounds .... they get used more than any other peg I carry ... my full set up needs about thirty pegs.
Quote: Originally posted by arsenaldes on 26/1/2014Is there a reason why peggy pegs cant be driven in at an angle? Post last edited on 26/01/2014 23:54:21
Sorry ... been away a couple of days.
They can be screwed in at any angle you like ... but there is not any need to ... use the right PP and a vertical insertion works fine as the blue clips provide the angle for the guy attachments. Habit still makes me drive them in at a slight angle .... but nothing like 45 degrees. The logic is that the deeper the peg goes, if it is threaded, the more grip it exerts .... going at an angle reduces the depth it drives to.
I've used them for three years now, on all sorts of grounds .... they get used more than any other peg I carry ... my full set up needs about thirty pegs.
I saw some of those pegs at Riversway Leisure a couple of yrs ago, cant remember exactly how much they were but I do remember they were very expensive and dearer than Delta`s
Ok...let's settle this once and for all. There is only one type of tent peg you need and this is it. If you use anything else your tent will blow away. Proven over hundreds of years.
Ive always used these and never had a problem with them pulling out
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Concur with lidds0 about Rob Orr, and he will be sadly missed by those who have benefited from his products and services, as well as his wisdom.
Dorothy, his wife, is taking over the business, and I wish her every success in the future.
>>> waves at Dorothy in case she reads this thread.
DK
>>>A wave back to DK too Also thank you to lidds0 for your very kind comments. Although I don't post anywhere near as often as Rob I am still as passionate about his inventions and will always try and help or advise if I can.
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