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Topic: Question re: Sleeping bags...

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3madboyz

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We are away again at the end of the month and at October half term and wanted some advice on "upgrading" our sleeping bags...
We already have Outwell contour 1900 bags and got on with these and blankets in October last year but went to bed with fleeces and bottoms as well as thick socks etc.. etc..

We only have a small car and don't want to be taking bundles of blankets/duvets with us and so would like some tried and tested advice on which sleeping bags you lot use and would recommend (bearing in mind that the temperatures hit minus 2 on one night of our stay last year!!)

I just bought and then returned 2 x 3 season mummy bags as I (and OH) could not get on with them- too restrictive!!! and so would prefer envelope/ square bottomed ones...

Many thanx in advance...

dawnandsi

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Hi Andy

We were at GoOutdoors Coventry yesterday and they've got one of their "1 week mega-deals" going on at the moment which finishes today. Amongst other things there's a few sleeping bags in the sale, although the Cov store didn't have much choice in the way of square bags, which is what you're after.

However a quick check on their website (or you might have better luck going to a store near you) pulled up the Hi-Gear Frontier - http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/sleeping/square-bags/hi-gear-frontier-square-sleeping-bag/COREDFCBZHG037 ; the Coleman 300 - http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/sleeping/square-bags/coleman-hudson-300-sleeping-bag/COREDFCA202682 ; or if you prefer a bigger bag, they had a Coleman double reduced from £50 down to £30 - http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/sleeping/square-bags/coleman-pacific-double-sleeping-bag/HERODFCB202597. All are 3-season and range from £14.99 for the Hi-Gear (reduced from £25) up to £34.95 for the Coleman 300.

A quick scan of other sites worth checking - http://www.winfieldsmegastore.com/camping_equipment/sleeping/outwell/sleeping_bags/outwell_escape_rectangular_sleeping_bag/330659/blue/product.html

http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-1428744-10294381?url=http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402313/c_1/1%7Ccat_14419152%7CCamping%7C14419397/Trail/searchtext%3ESLEEPING+BAGS.htm

We're in a similar position to yourself at the moment. I've got a 5-season mummy-style bag from many many years ago when I used to night-fish with my brother but my partner and her little lad both got Tesco value bags a few weeks ago in case they didn't like camping! Fortunately they did so we're now looking for some better bags (also square-ended) and have started looking round.

3madboyz

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I did look at the Coleman Hudson 300 in Go Outdoors the other day but really don't think it will be warm enough....??

The problem is from surfing the web and looking at different sites and looking at the different brands, the season ratings seem to vary from site to site for the same bag??? i.e one site claims that the outwell contour 2300 is a 2-3 season bag whereas another says it is a 3.... i'm confused

shready

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Snugpak are superb and reasonably priced, compress well too.

Some of their range is British made too.

http://militarykit.com/product_categories/sleeping_bags_snugpak.htm

http://www.snugpak.com/

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Quote: Originally posted by 3madboyz on 13/9/2009
The problem is from surfing the web and looking at different sites and looking at the different brands, the season ratings seem to vary from site to site for the same bag??? i.e one site claims that the outwell contour 2300 is a 2-3 season bag whereas another says it is a 3.... i'm confused

There's no standard for what a season is. People want to sell you their stuff and will interpret seasons differently to make their product look more favourable.

The best guide really is the "comfort" temperature of the bag because it's standardised. But never consider the almost useless "extreme" rating which some people sometimes quote.

EN13537

In searching for the Outwell Contour 2300, I found two sites that suggest it's OK down to -18*C (the extreme temperature)

. The comfort temperature for the 2300 is quoted as 4*C, the 1900 is 8*C, so not that much of an upgrade really. Coleman Hudson 300 is in between at 6*C.

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The bag that suits one person may not suit another, people vary quite a bit in how much insualtion that need. I'm a warmer sleeper than my wife for example.

My wife uses an Outwell Camper Lux. It's 'Comfort' rating is +3C. It's a larger than average, spacious bag (though of course that has issues for the effiecency of the bag).

From my expereince of this bag (and my wife who is a 'cold' sleeper), it's a good 3 season bag and I think I'd be happy to use it down below freezing (with some clothing as well).

An akternative would be maybe the Coleman Hudson 450?

Bags like the Camper Lux or Hudson are probably as good as it gets for rectangular bags, to get warmer bags I think you need to look at more mummy designs - I guess the bags get increasingly bulky and the 'dead air space becomes more importnat in the efficency of the bag

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I was recommended to use the 4/5 season sleeping bags that fisherman use and found these on ebay. However, someone on another thread informed me that they are available cheaper through amazon. Look the bees bananas to me!

Amazon link

I also hate mummy bags!

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OOOHHHHHH they do look warm don't they?

I think we have an angling centre up the road, so will go and see if they sell them there.....

Ta very much

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