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Subject Topic: Another sleeping bag query!
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22/9/2009 at 10:53am
 Location: Stafford
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Hi everyone,
I was hoping to buy two really warm fishing sleeping bags for our October trip, but money has been pretty tight.

As we already have 2, 2 season sleeping bags, what is everyone's opinion on buying something like this
Coleman double sleeping bag

and using our existing sleeping bags inside the double?

I do feel the cold, so am wondering whether this will be warm enough on top of airbed/insulating mats, or whether I should spend the extra and get the very warm sleeping fishing bags? I hate Mummy bags and the fishing ones seem ace, but around £50 or more each, the idea of buying a doubel to add to our existing bags is appealing!



22/9/2009 at 11:04am
 Location: Hampshire
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Could you not zip your 2 existing bags into a double and then put a quilt over the top?

The Coleman bag is 150cm wide - I expect your individual bags are wider than 75cm so I would have thought that would be a bit uncomfortable.



22/9/2009 at 11:37am
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I have the coleman hudson single bag and a very warm bag it is iv'e camped with it when the temp was -5c and been warm as toast so i dont think you will have any bother with the double17

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22/9/2009 at 6:06pm
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I notice some places advertise that bag as 3-season but the comfort temperature of the double is 7*C, so that's a 2-season bag at best. Personally I wouldn't chance it on its own in October if you sleep cold.

Some climbers do the two-bag trick to get a wider range of sleeping temperatures, so the idea does work. The key though is that the inside bag should fit inside the outer one without the insulation being crushed, otherwise it defeats the object.

Whatever bag you have, it doesn't give much insulation underneath when you are laid on the filling. What you have under you, and how well it insulates you from the ground, becomes even more important when it's cooler.

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23/9/2009 at 3:27pm
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I managed to get away for one night on friday, and it was fairly cold. I have one of the Vango 2/3 season extra wide bags that is not warm enough, so as I posted previously I used my old wide bag inside it and used them together. I was really warm, and if not for the fact that my nose was freezing, I would have thought it was a warm night.  The American  - 40 sleeping system actually uses three bags one inside the other, so it is an excepted way of doing it.

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23/9/2009 at 7:01pm
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Best thing is to wear some clothing in the sleeping bag - instant increase in performance! Long Johns, a fleece top and socks would do the trick. Also, you can use your bag inside a bivi bag - although bivi bags aren't insulated, they do provide another layer to trap warm air.


23/9/2009 at 7:29pm
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Personally I'd dump the airbed and go for either old fashioned roll mats or self inflating mats. I find airbeds unbearably cold even in the summer though - it's the whole sleeping on a block of cold air thing!

To me that would be better use of money than new bags.

If money is tight I would take a couple of duvets, use one under your bags and one over and you should be fine.

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24/9/2009 at 10:00pm
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I use a fleece blanket to make a sleeping bag liner, 

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25/9/2009 at 8:56pm
 Location: Sheffield
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I use this with fleecy jarmies its kept us warm so far although -4 is the coldest its ever been in the night it still did its job

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