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Subject Topic: Spare LeisurevBattery
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29/7/2011 at 9:36pm
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I always carry a spare leisure battery with me and sometimes it's used to run the Inverter.

If the sprae did run low would it be possible to put some charge into it run of the cars battery via jump leads whilst the engine is running of course.


Would this be OK to do




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29/7/2011 at 9:56pm
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I'd be wary about using the jump leads to charge it, as a battery is designed to be trickle charged, not given a big wallop of current all in one go.

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30/7/2011 at 7:09am
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You mention "A big wallop in one go", surely this goes for the battery that is fitted to the car also.

 

That battery is constantly getting "A big wallops"

 

Just a thought



30/7/2011 at 7:21am
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No,not really,leisure batteries are designed for lower current use,a car battery has much thicker plates. However,leisure batteries get charged when you tow,so they must be ok up to point. Max charge rate is normally given on the battery. How about a car battery as a spare?    ps," leisure battery" is a manufacturers code for " cheap battery painted orange and sold at twice the price"


30/7/2011 at 8:17am
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Car batteries can provide a massive amount of power for starting etc but can't keep it up for long, they don't like being drained to low either.

A proper leisure battery will be a deep cycle type, it can provide only a mild amount of power but can give it for a longer period as well as being able to go to a lower state of charge without damage. They usually need trickle charging rather than boost charging.

Reputable brands will be designed specifically for leisure use. They do normally charge from the car but are better being trickle charged from the EHU charger, some motorhomes will have power regulators fitted to limit the charge from the engine going to the leisure battery.


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30/7/2011 at 7:00pm
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If you connect with jump leads to the other battery, then the charge from that battery will flow through the leads until the voltages are equal, this is what I meant by "big wallop". Charging it from the alternator should be fine as it would be a trickle charge, but the correct kit is needed to do this, without transferring power from the good battery into the flat one you can't just connect the battery up in parallel.

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31/7/2011 at 9:14am
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OK, lots of views/opinions but I still have not got a YES or NO if connecting the cars battery to the SPARE leisure battery via jump leads is OK.

I must add this will only be done in an emergency if the spare has gone down in voltage and needed a bit more pwer put back in.

The connect to the car would be no longer than for about 30/45 minutes.



09/8/2011 at 9:41pm
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I have since had the electrics upgraded to twin sockets (for charging leisure battery and fridge operation whilst towing)

In addition to this I also had two further connections added into the boot to connect my spare leisure battery to charge whilst driving.

My only slight concern is that the wires seem pretty standard gauge similar to the wires on my CTEK 5.0 charger, is this the standard sort of wire used to connect to charge battery's?



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I presume it was a professional conversion?

The charging wires (green/white) will only take around 3-4A so not too heavy, the fridge (red) wire is usually much heavier as is the fridge earth wire (black).

If it was a pro upgrade then you should not need to worry, just enjoy


10/8/2011 at 11:52am
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Quote: Originally posted by Miserly on 30/7/2011
No,not really,leisure batteries are designed for lower current use,a car battery has much thicker plates.


A car battery has a larger number of thinner plates, this is to give a larger surface area and thus a larger current output. They are more likely to be damaged by a deep discharge.

A deep cycle battery has thicker plates that will deliver less peak current but will withstand deeper discharge cycles.

Hope this clarifies the difference between battery types!


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10/8/2011 at 3:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by davek0974 on 10/8/2011
I presume it was a professional conversion?

The charging wires (green/white) will only take around 3-4A so not too heavy, the fridge (red) wire is usually much heavier as is the fridge earth wire (black).

If it was a pro upgrade then you should not need to worry, just enjoy

 

Yes, it was a tow bar fitter, the guy that fitted my towbar originally.

I should think all is in order




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