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Subject Topic: Propane or butane?
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12/3/2005 at 10:54am
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Having a bit of a blonde moments!  Have just bought a gas cooker and need to get the regulator and hose but am unsure whether to go for butane or propane.  Could do with your help and advice as to the difference between the both.

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I use Butane, in the blue calor gas bottle. This tends to be the one that portable bbq's, etc. run off.

Not really sure why I use butane, it's just what I've always used.

If my memory serves me right, I think Propane gives off a sweet sort of smell. We use Propane at work.

As for the chemical difference, haven't a clue!!


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Does this help?

Most gas is supplied in cylinders that can be refilled from a gas supplier, while lightweight cartridges are disposable. They contain a pressurised liquid that evaporates to form a gas - liquid petroleum gas (LPG).

Gas delivered in this way is either propane, butane or a mixture of both. The difference between these gases is that propane does not freeze until about -43°C, and butane is a cleaner fuel. The price difference between the two is minimal. Unfortunately, there is no standard colour coding for containers of different LPGs.

All cylinders need a regulator to control the pressure of the gas as it is released from the cylinder. This differs according to the gas mixture used, which means that regulators are not transferable between cylinders of different sizes or those made by different manufacturers.


12/3/2005 at 12:13pm
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If you don't camp when its freezing it won't make that much difference so long as the gas and the regulator match. Propane is better in cold weather, my experience is that butane is easier to come by.

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21/3/2005 at 10:23pm
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 so what is camping gaz in the small blue bottles  are these the same?


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21/3/2005 at 11:28pm
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Camping Gaz in the small piercable cylinders is a butane/propane mix.

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22/3/2005 at 8:49am
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depends what i've been eating !! 

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the kettle boils quicker and the toast burns faster on propane, dont mind the first hate the second


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Quote: Originally posted by geordie lass 38 on 21/03/2005
 so what is camping gaz in the small blue bottles  are these the same?
I think the campingaz refillable bottles are butane. The non-refillable canisters are a butane propane mix.


22/3/2005 at 9:50am
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Seeing as you will be "under canvas" so to speak it is unlikeley that you will be out when there is frost on the ground.  Butane will be fine for your needs.  Propane will appear to boil kettles quicker because it is using the gas at a higher presure.  Not sure the exact numbers but the mbar rating on propane regulators is higher than that on butane.

Camping gas and calor gas both do a Butane gas.  Not sure that camping gas has a mix of Propane in it though.  I can tell you that Calor gas is cheaper per kg than Camping gas.  Camping gas is avail in France, and other parts of europe, but Calor is not.  If you are planning a trip to France take enough gas to last or get Camping gas.

I hope this helps



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Butane will start to freeze at temperatures below 4 degrees celcius, so unless you are going somewhere cold I'd recommend you use butanes as it tends to be cheaper.

As for Rooster, the chemical difference is that propane has one less carbon atom to its molecules and 2 less hydrogen atoms to its molecules. It is a member of the alkane family (hydrocarbons), all derived from crude oil but their molecules are all of certain lengths. Butane's molecules are thus longer than propane's molecules.

The chemical formula for propane is:

C  H

  3   8

 

Whereas the formula for butane is:

C   H

  4     10



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If you have a look at this page of the Towsure web site you will see that CampinGaz, Cadac & Go-gas pierceable cylinders are all butane/propane mix.

 



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anyone tried methane??? Im sure my OH produces enough to power a weeks cooking if only it could be harnessed ..........

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 Caroline. If only we could harness it..................

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..save a fortune ....!

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