Hi everyone,
I've just acquired on old gas camping stove. It's an sms orange and white twin burner with grill. It didn't have the hose with it (which I would have replaced with a new one anyway) but it where it connects to the stove is a screw fitting. I know that the norm now is to attach with jubilee clips after warming but does anyone know if I can get an attachment anywhere that screws on to the stove? I have searched online and can't find hoses with screw fittings or an attachment I can screw on and then push a hose on to but I don't know if it has a specific name I should be looking up!
Any help would be appreciated. I'm just getting in to camping for the first time since I was a kid and trying to do so on a shoestring so would really like to be able to use this old stove rather than buying a new one.
Thanks :)
Is there anywhere local to you where you could take the stove(or the fitting, if it'll unscrew?), to see if you can get a Fulham fitting(hose fitting) to fit?...
..or at least some means of identifying the thread?
Possibly it is old type stove that does not use regulator just high pressure gas from fitting direct into Campingaz 907 bottle. The original stove came with hose with fitting that screwed in. If you cannot find a fitting it might be that sort of stove but if you can find a fitting then direct fitting for Campingaz bottle is still available.
ah! see it did have a name! A Fulham fitting! Thanks! There is a Go Outdoors quite near so I could takeit there. Might be best as I don't know what sort of gas would work, it could be high pressure. My friend gave it to me, he is clearing his Mum's house and remembers it being in use in the seventies so it's definitely old!
If you get the correct connector then give it a try with bottle & regulator. You can use any bottled gas, ie Calor butane or propane or Campingaz with correct regulator. If stove is made in UK it should work ok.
I'm sure stove I referred to earlier was US made, there was a thread about one on here ages ago. The reason a fitting was not obtainable was because it was American thread, I think.
Thanks Billy. It was when I was googling trying to find info on the stove that I found this site because of a thread on here from someone with the same stove. They didn't say it was american and they wanted help with how to fit the regulator as they still had the original hose connected. The only bit of relevant info for me I think was that they said in the instructions it was working on 28mb pressure. I've no idea what that means though!
I'll order a connector I think, not much cash to lose if it's not right.
28mb is the pressure for a butane regulator so regulator for a butane bottle will be that. 37mb is pressure of a propane regulator. You cannot go wrong with UK supplied gas bottles because you cannot fit incorrect regulator to bottle as fittings are all different.
A gas appliance for use with bottled gas should work equally well on butane or propane gas. Propane gas is best for low temperature use, ie winter.
Thanks again Billy. I worked that out after some research this afternoon, still no guarantee that that is true of this stove but I would be surprised if it is propane by looking at it. I also think I will go for the calor set up as most people seem to think it's cheaper than campingaz. Just need to get the hose and regulator.
I have ordered a connector after discussing with the seller that I actually needed a 1/8 bsp for the size of the outlet pipe. My only problem then was deciding what size the hose tail should be. I ordered a 9.5mm in the end as from what I could work out the inside diameter of the right tubing is 8mm so figured that the 9.5mm would be better than the 6.5mm.
Only spent just over 2 quid so no great loss if I've got it completely wrong.
Thanks to you both for your help
Yes, rubber lpg hose with interior bore of 8mm is correct. Best Calor bottle to use for camping is probably smallest 4.5kg butane with correct regulator, you can't go wrong with regulator, only correct one will fit bottle. Hose ends should be secured with jubilee clips. Dip hose ends in boiling water to soften to push easily over nipple ends.
As you say Calor bottle much cheaper than Campingaz but only Campingaz is available abroad, ie France etc. Charge from supplier for bottle is £30+gas cost so if you can find a bottle on a boot sale etc for a few quid then do that because once you have bottle then you exchange for full at supplier paying only for gas, around £16 for 4.5kg.
Great Thanks Billy. Annoyingly we did borrow a friends stove last year when we went away for a weekend,we only had a tent at that point. Didn't get to even fully boil a kettle before the gas ran out and had to pay £30 to get a refill! We only used it for a couple more kettles and frying bacon so they got a pretty much full one back! oh well! Think I'll ask on freecycle, worth a try.
Just need to get myself a nice double height inflatable mattress now and we'll be all sorted to go!
Thanks again for your help.
Sounds like you have an SMS bottle pressure stove which is designed to be used with no regulator and a direct connection via an LPG hose and screw in tap to a 907 etc. I have one of these with the grill. It appears the tap fitting is missing with the hose. It probably will not work well with a regulator inline due to jetting design, it needs bottle pressure circa 1-2 bar.
You could fit it with a hose tail and then to a Butane cylinder via an HP LPG hose and Mikalor clips. You don't need to use a hose as big as 8mm, a 4.8mm would be sufficient.
Keep in mind that these were phased out due to increased safety standards and the use of 28mbar regs. You can still get bottle pressure non-reg stoves for 907s but they screw directly into the top of the cylinder now, no hose to fail. As this stove is so old it will need new o-rings in the taps as a bottle pressure gas leak could be very nasty. Bottle pressure stoves are powerful but they should be used with caution and knowledge to avoid injury. Get someone who is competent with such things to renew the perished seals etc. and check for leaks.
If in doubt use a modern reg style stove which are inherently safer though less powerful. Remember Propane is MUCH higher pressure, lower pressure Butane from say a 907 is what you should be using though of course there are temperature restrictions.
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Topic: Help with connector on old gas stove
