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Subject Topic: Air Awning 12v pump
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Personlaineymac
24/7/2015 at 9:28pm
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Mistrelyn, from reading your first post you seem to have putting your awning up down to a T now!. We have the same one which we bought as the ex display at the NEC show last Oct, there were no instructions with it,do you shut the cross over valves between tubes after it is inflated? We have only used ours twice,first time was fine second time it chucked it down all night and it collapsed on the middle two tubes which let the waterin at the awning rail.

I now think if those cross tubes had been closed after inflation that might not have happened. Also after reading this post we have now purchased a Sevylor pump ( would have bought a bravo but the only come with crocodile clips which doesn't suit us) Looking forward to using the awning more often now

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PersonMistrelyn
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Once again thanks for all the advice.

We are away again shortly so will have to buy one of the pumps

Gary Which model Bravo was it as there seems to be several?

Cheers

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PersonMistrelyn
11/8/2015 at 2:03pm
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Lainey
Just read your message after posting the thank you.
I have never closed the cross over valves. Forgot they were there if the truth be known.
Like you I have no instructions although they must be available online at Kampa.

Closing them would save losing pressure in all sections in the case of a leak but as I have never had a problem I doubt I will use them unless there is a problem.
Have you used the pump yet??

Cheers

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PersonMistrelyn
28/8/2015 at 2:37pm
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An up date of sorts.
The Sevylor 15psi pump arrived today which considering I only ordered it yesterday afternoon is brilliant service. Got it from Outdoor Mania for £36.99 plus £5.95 postage. I paid the extra pound for next day.

After reading the instructions it seems I can only use it on a dry, dark night as it is not to be used when raining or in sunlight!!

On the more sensible side it is drawing 8 amps so will plug into the car which is 10 amp but the caravan outlets are only 6 amp. I happened to have a BMW socket from my biking days and before any body asks "No it didn't have an ash tray" but I did have a Garmin to plug in. I made a support bracket that mounted in my battery box just leaving space to operate the mover switch and plug the mains in and wired it in to my mover terminals with an inline fuse. This means it is isolated and safe for most of the time and I just turn on the mover power to use it. Simples!!
We will use it next Tuesday so I will put a note in on how it faired even in broad daylight.

Be safe


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PersonMistrelyn
03/9/2015 at 3:07pm
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Well we are here at Deers Mead and the awning is up.
I ended up having to use the hand pump as the high pressure hose doesn't fit well at all and there are no adapters for it.
They say to use the high pressure hose for pressures between 3 & 15 psi so why no adapters.
Plenty with the low pressure hose that you are not suppose to use?

Which hose have others used?

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03/9/2015 at 8:44pm
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You would have got half a dozen adaptors included with the Bravo

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PersonMistrelyn
05/9/2015 at 4:03pm
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As they say David "You get what you pay for" and I didn't pay much so I now have to pay!

Regards

John

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You should have got adapters with the pump.

I had to file one of them down slightly but it fits fine now.
John


PersonMistrelyn
06/9/2015 at 2:00pm
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Hi John
I got 2 hoses. The low pressure that has 4 adapters and they won't fit the high pressure hose. On page 12 it states the low pressure hose is for use upto 3 psi.
The high pressure hose, as per the same page, is for 3 to 15 psi and has just the one adaptor that is fixed to the hose.

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John

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These look as if they may solve the problem.

If not well its only £2.99 + p&p

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06/9/2015 at 3:42pm
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They should do the trick if they fit your hose. They look very similar to the ones that came with my pump.




Quote: Originally posted by david8858 on 06/9/2015
These look as if they may solve the problem.

If not well its only £2.99 + p&p




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PersonMistrelyn
19/9/2015 at 11:56am
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Latest update
I have had a couple of responses from Coleman / Sevylor which were completely unhelpful.
They just advised that they didn't do adaptors for the high pressure hose and ignored my comment asking for their oppinion on people using the low pressure hose to inflate to 11psi.
I also asked them in a further email why they bothered with a low pressure hose when one good hose with adaptors made more sense. No response at all to this.

I have now resorted to modifying the hoses which took all of 5 minutes.
The end screwed out of the low pressure hose no problem. There were signs of glue but so little it was pointless.
I then cut the end off the high pressure hose as that wasn't budging and then applied plenty of good quality glue to the adaptor from the low pressure hose and screwed it in to the high pressure hose.

Yet to be tested but with the advised adjustment to one of the adaptors I am confident it should work. will advise when tested.

Of further interest is a comment from Kampa on another forum "I've mentioned this previously on this forum, but we have had user reports back that the pump is not able to inflate our awnings and that it has been damaged when attempting to in some cases."

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John & Val


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I just used the low pressure hose and pumped up to 9 p s i.
worked fine for me
John


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Just a heads up, I have found a rechargeable pump which should inflate up to 11 psi max with a pressure cut out etc. Also I have found from the same brand a four way adaptor with pipes for anyone with a 4 mtr max wide caravan awning (it connects to all four beams at once).
This pump should be about £60-£65 and should be available in the spring. I will do some tests on various tents and awning before i commit or give to many more details.

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PersonMistrelyn
30/9/2015 at 1:28pm
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Last comment from Coleman:

Dear John,

Thank you for your email. I asked my pump product manager about this issue of you. This was the reaction.

We provide two hoses with the 12V 15PSI Pump as it is not possible to connect additional adapters on top of a Halkey Roberts valve adapter (which is permanently attached to the high-pressure hose so that higher pressures can be reached).
However, as we want that our pump can also be used with Boston valves, Double Lock valves, Mini Double Lock valves and Pinch valves, we include a second hose with fitting valve adapters as well.

This pump was first and foremost designed to inflate Sevylor SUPs and boats, and not Kampa awnings. You can try to use the pump with the low-pressure hose to inflate the awning up to 11PSI. If you are not satisfied, next time you should by a Kampa pump for his Kampa awning.


I hope it helps.


Kind regards,
Ingeborg Goedhart
Customer service advisor UK and Ireland
Coleman UK

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John & Val


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01/10/2015 at 3:13pm
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That last line sounds a bit off but I think it may just be lost in translation as I imagine Ingeborg Goedhart in customer services may not be native to the UK...


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