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23/8/2017 at 2:25pm
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Hi

First time campers. Does anyone recommend laying something under the airbeds to help with insulation? I've been thinking of just taking some Double insulation bubble foil stuff just to put down as a mat.

Thought please?

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23/8/2017 at 3:25pm
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Hi Michael and welcome to the forum. When we camped we used the foam camping mats, it made quite a difference.

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23/8/2017 at 4:05pm
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cheers Dave. Thinking of going for something like this under the bedroom

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outdoor-Aluminum-Foil-EVA-Camping-Sleeping-Mattress-Waterproof-Picnic-Mat-Pad/252771748655?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=551769959694&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649


23/8/2017 at 9:02pm
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Michael

We use picnic blankets under our beds. It makes a hugh differents in temperture. Plus they stick out the of the airbed so you have something warm to stand on.

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23/8/2017 at 9:17pm
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That looks like it will do the job well, is a good price and folds up neatly in a bag for storage, go for it.

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I always have a picnic rug in the bedroom pod covering the whole floor. Previously when I used airbeds I always placed a foam camping mat underneath the airbed as well. I have just gone back to airbeds after a long time using camp beds and when I used it for the first time a few weeks ago I was very cold...I had forgotten about the foam mat! So, I believe they do help and I will now have to buy one


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Got a thin foam mat which is coated with a reflective mylar coating to help reflect heat. Its noticeably warmer lying on them which could be enough to take the edge off being cold. If you got the larger picnic blanket sized one's you may be able to put them between the inner tent and flysheet to help reflect heat that would otherwise escape more quickly, whilst helping to deflect draughts.


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We just use the fleece rolls you get for £5 in GO


28/8/2017 at 3:11pm
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Another air bed,no sorry that's daft as that will go flat by morning. honestly Michael don't waste your hard earned cash.
In the last 7 years we have tried them all, airbeds that is, there all a waste of time and CASH. like us you will get sick of topping them up every night b4 you can sleep. And yes we have let air out on hot days to allow for expansion and all that baloney.

last year we bought two good brand air beds and used them for a long weekend, took them camping this year and had to replace one after the first night . so that's 3 beds total cost £120 and when we came home the other older airbed died so we ended up paying all that for nothing. couldn't take them back as the guarantee had lapsed by 2 days.

I had the worse sleeping experience this year when the other bed failed, it went the last wednesday of our two week camping holiday. Had some all singing all dancing "internal coil structure for enhanced support" which parted and i ended up sleeping on an airbed with a beach ball trying to escape from it.


Get yourself a pair of vange xl or Oztent goanna stretcher camp beds and put them side by side, duvet over the top job done. you can put them up quicker than it takes to boil your kettle.

the above imo on air beds, some people swear by em but I swear at em



28/8/2017 at 5:04pm
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Putting something under the air bed will help. But what ever level of insulation you put under the air bed will have far less of an impact than putting it on top of the air bed.

The idea is to keep your body heat in. As you will know from school physics, heat moves to cold. So by insulating under the bed, your body heat will be lost into the cold air in the air bed. Placing insulation on top of the bed will greatly slow down if not stop the loss of body heat into the bed. Simples.



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30/8/2017 at 12:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by tentfluff on 28/8/2017
Another air bed,no sorry that's daft as that will go flat by morning. honestly Michael don't waste your hard earned cash.
In the last 7 years we have tried them all, airbeds that is, there all a waste of time and CASH. like us you will get sick of topping them up every night b4 you can sleep. And yes we have let air out on hot days to allow for expansion and all that baloney.

last year we bought two good brand air beds and used them for a long weekend, took them camping this year and had to replace one after the first night . so that's 3 beds total cost £120 and when we came home the other older airbed died so we ended up paying all that for nothing. couldn't take them back as the guarantee had lapsed by 2 days.

I had the worse sleeping experience this year when the other bed failed, it went the last wednesday of our two week camping holiday. Had some all singing all dancing "internal coil structure for enhanced support" which parted and i ended up sleeping on an airbed with a beach ball trying to escape from it.


Get yourself a pair of vange xl or Oztent goanna stretcher camp beds and put them side by side, duvet over the top job done. you can put them up quicker than it takes to boil your kettle.

the above imo on air beds, some people swear by em but I swear at em





I've used airbeds for decades with never a single problem

I always buy good quality ones.

Conversely I've never yet found a camping bed I can sleep on or which doesnt cause my bad back problems. I guess I could spend the £60 on a camp bed then another £80 on a good SIM but from previous experience I still doubt I'd find it comfortable and of course they take up way more room than an airbed.

On the other hand my Intex full height airbeds are now 3 years old, have never ever gone down overnight and are as comfortable as my orthopaedic bed at home

I do find that many people dont understand airbeds, how they are made and how they react to temperatures. People seem to fill them as full as they can get them, leave them like that and wonder why they go down when a little understanding would help greatly.

Having just got back from camping for a week with my daughter and ex-wife - all 3 of us with the single size intex full height beds and they both commented on how comfortable they were. You can leave them plugged into the mains and they have a simple on/off switch.

In very hot weather, let a bit of air out (takes around 3 seconds) in the morning and then once things have cooled down in the evening hit the switch (probably 8-10 seconds max) and thats it!

Back to the OP - I use EVA foam flooring from Halfords. £10 for 1.8sq metres. It's very warm and comfortable underfoot and really helps.

If space is limited buy a couple of rolls of the insulated foamed underlay for laminated floors and cut it to size. You could just do under the beds or you could do the whole floor

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31/8/2017 at 9:21am
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Quote: Originally posted by Tidburyboy on 28/8/2017
Putting something under the air bed will help. But what ever level of insulation you put under the air bed will have far less of an impact than putting it on top of the air bed.

The idea is to keep your body heat in. As you will know from school physics, heat moves to cold. So by insulating under the bed, your body heat will be lost into the cold air in the air bed. Placing insulation on top of the bed will greatly slow down if not stop the loss of body heat into the bed. Simples.

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02/9/2017 at 8:32am
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Quote: Originally posted by HighSlayer on 30/8/2017
Quote: Originally posted by tentfluff on 28/8/2017
Another air bed,no sorry that's daft as that will go flat by morning. honestly Michael don't waste your hard earned cash.
In the last 7 years we have tried them all, airbeds that is, there all a waste of time and CASH. like us you will get sick of topping them up every night b4 you can sleep. And yes we have let air out on hot days to allow for expansion and all that baloney.

last year we bought two good brand air beds and used them for a long weekend, took them camping this year and had to replace one after the first night . so that's 3 beds total cost £120 and when we came home the other older airbed died so we ended up paying all that for nothing. couldn't take them back as the guarantee had lapsed by 2 days.

I had the worse sleeping experience this year when the other bed failed, it went the last wednesday of our two week camping holiday. Had some all singing all dancing "internal coil structure for enhanced support" which parted and i ended up sleeping on an airbed with a beach ball trying to escape from it.


Get yourself a pair of vange xl or Oztent goanna stretcher camp beds and put them side by side, duvet over the top job done. you can put them up quicker than it takes to boil your kettle.

the above imo on air beds, some people swear by em but I swear at em





I've used airbeds for decades with never a single problem

I always buy good quality ones.

Conversely I've never yet found a camping bed I can sleep on or which doesnt cause my bad back problems. I guess I could spend the £60 on a camp bed then another £80 on a good SIM but from previous experience I still doubt I'd find it comfortable and of course they take up way more room than an airbed.

On the other hand my Intex full height airbeds are now 3 years old, have never ever gone down overnight and are as comfortable as my orthopaedic bed at home

I do find that many people dont understand airbeds, how they are made and how they react to temperatures. People seem to fill them as full as they can get them, leave them like that and wonder why they go down when a little understanding would help greatly.

Having just got back from camping for a week with my daughter and ex-wife - all 3 of us with the single size intex full height beds and they both commented on how comfortable they were. You can leave them plugged into the mains and they have a simple on/off switch.





that okay if you only ever camp at sites that have EHU but we don't
victor



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