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Message posted by rico8206/7/2021 at 4:18pm
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Hi All,

I'm after some advice with Gas. My wife and I recently bought a Cadac 2 cook 2 Pro stove after years of doing our camp cooking on a single Trangia with a spirit burner.

Originally I intended to get a 4.5kg calor gas bottle but have just learned about the availability issues at the moment.

So our other options are one of the campingaz cylinders or buy the Cadac EN417 regulator and run it on high pressure cartridges.

I assumed the high pressure cartridges would work out costly but comparing the price to the campingaz refills, it actually works out cheaper (less than 10/kg for HP or about 13/Kg for cmapingaz refill)

As our trips are generally just 3 or 4 nighters, small lightweight cartidges seem appealing but I was wondering if there is any downside in performance? I don't have much experience using gas. I've done a little bit of camping with one of those single burners in a plastic briefcase which takes a 220g high pressure cartridge and I found that fairly useless to be honest. It would just about hold a light simmer at full blast with a lid on the pan! But I don't know if that was down to the gas or the stove itself.

I haven't looked into flo gas yet, are there any availability issues there too?

Really appreciate any advice or tips

Thanks

Message posted by birder9906/7/2021 at 4:54pm
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I love the plastic Flogas Gaslight bottles, they are light and don't leave rusty marks on anything touching them. I get mine delivered by the local Flowgas depot and they are the same price delivered as collect. I simply leave the empty bottle ready and they replace it with a full even if I am out.   

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Ive been looking at the gaslight bottles recently and in my opinion they are expensive compared to normal flogas canisters. I guess if weight is an issue in your vehicle or caravan then they are an alternative to consider but I was quite surprised how expensive they were. Also not as available as normal canisters in my neck of the woods.

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Welcome to UKCS.

I suspect it was butane in the gas canisters that you used in the suitcase/briefcase stove, and it was kind of nippy when you were using it?

Butane does not burn well at lower temperatures, therefore, it is suitable for cooking outdoors in the warmer months.

Propane would be a better choice or butane/propane mix canisters.

I don't use LPG, therefore, can't comment on gas bottles.

Have a read on different types of gas in this useful guide:

GO's Guide to Cooking Outdoors

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We have the 2cook2 pro but we use it on propane from the caravan external socket so no help there.
It is a great cooker, we have had it for 5 years now and it is still like new, compact and very powerful. We nearly always use the hotplates and also use a wind shield. Hardly ever use the van cooker at all now.
Great piece of quality kit can't fault it.

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Message posted by rico8206/7/2021 at 8:35pm
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Thanks for the thoughts.

I will look into the gaslight bottles. I think they are propane gas? And if comparing the price against campingaz, not actually that expensive.

Ratcatcher - glad to hear you've found it a good piece of kit. I'm looking forward to taking it on a trip!




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I think I will go with a flo gas 4.5kg butane bottle and just put up with having a bulky bottle.

why do they do a blue bottle and a yellow bottle with different regulators and am i better off going for one over the other or just whatever is available at the time?

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The steel Flogas bottles are different colours etc due to the fact that Flogas took over a lot of small companies that were finding it difficult to remain viable and these companies frequently used bottles to their own specifications. If you have any doubts just give flowgas a ring, they are very helpful.

If you are planning on going away when it gets a bit on the chilly side you might be better of with propane as it will 'gas off' at much lower temperatures than butane which will mainly remain in a liquid state and not provide sufficient gas pressure to run your equipment.

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We were given some part full butane cylinders, as a gift for helping a friend clear out his uncles garage, and had some difficulty in the cooler mornings. If you camp at the beginning or back end of the year I would suggest that you go with Propane of whichever company you go for.

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We've been using the "suitcase" stove for years, but wind can be a problem. Then we got a little folding metal windbreak off ebay for a few quid. A great improvement. Halves your gas consumption.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=camping+stove+windshield&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1
The refills are pretty cheap off ebay as well- under 1.50 each if you buy half-a-dozen or so- so that per-kilo price comes down a bit. Ours takes 400ml.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304053018432?epid=19047910183&hash=item46caf8df40:g:EVgAAOSwc-hg3wPw
No match for your stove I expect, but then our camping fare is very simple.

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Have had the Cadac 2 for a few years and love it. Bought an adaptor and have always run the screw on cannisters which also fit another lightweight stove dedicated to the kettle. So I take 3-4 canisters and just make sure I use up the part ones next time on the kettle stove. Means I'm only ever taking what I need, and can buy them virtually anywhere.

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HI at The Brewer.

Really interesting. I'm limited in space of what I can store so I'm interested in what you have done and the adaptor. could you give any further details? What it is called, how much and how long do the screw on backpacking type canisters last? I too have a Primus Spider of kettle boiling so would db useful e to have a single fuel system if possible.

many thanks
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Hello, I bought a Cadac 2 Cook Pro recently and have used it once. I bought the EN417 screw cannister and a regulator which worked well. It feels like I used half a cannister for a 2 night trip so will make sure I take spares. It seems a good purchase

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Hi,

I too have recently bought a Cadac 2-Cook 2 (Pro Deluxe QR - it goes on!)
We used it for the first time camping over this Aug BH weekend (temps in the mid/high-teens C. We have a EN417 regulator and used a 350g Go-Systems gas canister Bu/Pr mix. I thought this a good solution as two canisters would easily fit in the bag, under the base of the stove.

However, when running two burners the gas supply would dry up, the gas cannister becoming very cold and ice forming on the outside. It was still clearly 2/3 full of liquid fuel. Truthfully the supply seemed marginal for one burner at full temp.

What is causing this issue? Is it the gas requirement from 2 burners being too great for the canister to deliver?

What is the solution? Cadac offer a dual cannister EN417 regulator, is this good enough to run the stove, or must I invest in a 'full-size' gas bottle? Do the fatter Coleman EN417 cannisters work better than the slim Go-Systems 'aerosol' type?

Thanks for any help,
T.

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The adaptor is readily available - you have to buy the LP version of the CADAC to use it - the HP allows for direct cannister connection, whereas the LP version allows for any gas supply to be used, be it cannister or bottle. In our case I use this;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cadac-EN417-Hose-and-Regulator/dp/B00481D8JM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cadac+pressure+reducer&qid=1630426794&s=outdoors&sr=1-1-catcorr

As noted above, there is a twin bottle set-up as well. I have also recently bought a fridge, so now have a split setup where the Cadac runs off the same 3.5kg propane bottle as the fridge, or I can just revert to cannisters on shorter cool-box trips. My fats bil stove just runs completely independently, but uses the same coleman gas cannisters - hence to common supply.


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