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Subject Topic: Coleman 424 duel fuel stove
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18/9/2006 at 4:17pm
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Hi

We used our duel fuel stove for the first time at the weekend and encountered a few problems.

Firstly we followed the instructions carefully, i.e. pump 30 times, move lighting lever to the top position, open valve and light.  Managed to get the thing lit and remembered to turn the lighting lever back down, however we could not get rid of a yellow flame, the only way we could get a blue flame was by having the valve about ½ a turn open.  We also could not get the 2nd burner to light. 

The only thing that springs to mind is that we have not topped up the tank as it came with fuel in it (was bought off e-bay), is it possible that the level of fuel in the tank was too low? 

The seccond thing we noticed was that our kettle and pans endded up with an oily layer on them, is this normal?

Any advice would be appreciated, with regards to the oily layers on the kettle, I hope that it is something we are doing wrong as if this is the norm then I think we'll be going back to gas!



18/9/2006 at 4:32pm
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I can only talk from my experience of using the single burner Feather 422. As the fuel lowers it does need a bit more pumping to get the pressure up, so it may be that you should try filling it up. It does leave a black sooty layer on the bottom of pans, I think this usually happens when it sort of flares up occasionaly. You might also want to check that the burners are clean. On the single one wou have to wiggle the lever which I think in turns moves a wire inside the tube to clean it, there is possibly something similar on yours.


18/9/2006 at 4:42pm
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You need to pump it until it's really difficult to pump, 30 ish times if the tank's full, the less fuel the more you need to pump.  Also it is possible that the fuel has been in the tank for quite a long time, fill it up with some new unleaded and give it a good blow out in the garden.  You may find that you have to turn up the knob quite a lot to get a good blue flame, you get to know how far with practice. 

You do get some black on the bottom of the pans if you're cooking on an orange flame.  Don't forget that if you're cooking for a long time you'll need to pump again during cooking. 

You also need to have the first burner on high to light the second one, you can adjust it once it's lit.  It's a great cooker, just have more practice and don't be scared of pumping the generator.

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18/9/2006 at 6:02pm
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Thanks for the replies, is it OK to pump whilst the stove is lit?


18/9/2006 at 8:19pm
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yeah lancscampers,no probs pumping whilst lit as long as you can keep everything stable.deposits on your pans would be due to you cooking with yellow flame;ditch your fuel,fill with fresh,you will be fine;if not post again and help will be forthcoming: I'm yet to find better than a coleman

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18/9/2006 at 9:27pm
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I fell for this one at first,  are you twisting the pump handle fully open before you pump it.  You have to be quite firm.  Once it gets going watch your eyebrows.


18/9/2006 at 9:31pm
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Sounds like not enough fuel and probably fuel that is old. Empty it out and refill it and try again.

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18/9/2006 at 10:35pm
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thanks for that, I think I will try and burn off what fuel is left and start a fresh!


19/9/2006 at 12:14pm
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Any luck, are you in Lancs or are you the family Lancs.  Cos if you are in Lancs get a griddle to fit your stove  (JML) from Oldham woolies or your own if they have them.


26/9/2006 at 3:02pm
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This thread made me all nostalgic, I had to get out my previously mentioned Feather 422 single burner. Used to use it all the time hiking etc when there was just the two of us. Hadn't been used for about 5 years, so I thought i'd get it out. Wouldn't light to start with. Had to unscrew the generator and pull out the wire that runs through and give a little clean to each end. Put it back on and lit it, It's been so long i'd forgotton I needed to be careful, singed the hairs on my hand!! But boy is it a strong flame!
Did the original OP get theirs working?


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26/9/2006 at 3:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lancscampers on 18/9/2006
thanks for that, I think I will try and burn off what fuel is left and start a fresh!


Dont burn it off just empty it,its full of crap & will gum up the generator.Put a bit of fresh in,swill & discard,if you arent going to use it regularly dont FILL it.


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26/9/2006 at 4:57pm
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Cream cleaner, you know the gritty ones are great at getting the soot off the bottom of your pans.

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28/9/2006 at 9:59pm
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These are brilliant cookers. I agree with other posts about using old fuel.

When I first had mine I spent quite a lot of time getting it to run right. It is a knack that comes eventually



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29/9/2006 at 12:39am
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Anyone know if there is a major difference in the flame performance between the Coleman Fuel and un-leaded petrol with the Coleman dual-fuel stoves?




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