Chave strctly speaking are 'council house average', but this is not strictly true as you get people of a certain type everywhere.
In Fountaine de Vaucluse we saw them and they were definately French. The common denominator is usually tracks suit bottoms, trainers, baseball caps...vests. Girls, a bit hardert to spot.
I was a fashion stylist for years, so I have a trained eye for these things (just in case you were wondering).
The Brit chav girls tend to go for 'Juicy Couture', Pauls Boutique, velour tracksuits, neon brights. Then men/boys go for Bench, Super Dry....come on you know the type.
If you can spot the difference in others, then teh chances are that you do not fall for it yourself.
The only nationality which seems to rise above this is, the Italians, they always look good.
If you have ever been in ASDA (Owlcoates, nr Pudsey) you will see them in droves. I refuse to go in..I go into M&S and then wait in the car, (shocking but true)
Don't forget Hollister!, usually teamed with Superdry....
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Oh I forgot Hollister, and Hilfiger..I'm sure a few more wil follow that trend in the new season.
Tents for next year...well if it was me they would all be neutral shades and stripy windbreaks would be banned.
I saw some lovely Jack Wolfskin tents and a Quechua in tan/ beige tone.
As for the camper attire.......noone can account for peoples taste but outdoor qwear does tend to be sympathetic to the countryside, although I have seen some pretty garish pinks in the ladies ranges (heaven forbid).
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Favourite site:
Camping Nanzel, Limone, Lake
Garda..perfect for MTB, Kayak, SUP and fell running training.
Favourite areas: Provence, French Alps, Savigny (as a stop over for Southern France: Rhein valley as a stop over for Italy. 78
We go to northern Provence near Carpentras which has an excellent and huge local market every friday morning. We tried to visit Gordes and Rouission for the day last year but didnt stop due to the crowds and coaches!
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We love the market in Riez - absolutely full of local food, and very little 'tat' - no brightly coloured polyester dresses, no 'logo' T shirts, just olives, sundried tomatoes, cheese, saucisson, eggs, honeys, nuts, and fruit and vegetables.
That sounds more like a market to me Val. The market in Beaune is just the same, although there are stalls selling handbags and CDs on the perifery.
Still not decided where to go next year. the frends I mentioned who kyaks with a club has a pal wanting to sell a 'high end' inflatable double that he won in a competition, so if it is still up for grabs we are going to buy it from him. So we need somewhere with water, preferably a lake. Ideally I would like to frind somewhere in Provence....perhaps over near Verdon. I enjoyed the weather in Provence and of course there is so much in the region to explore that we haven't yet seen.
I loved the Luberon so much, and so did Robert.
The concert in Hubberholme was amazing. The new landlrd and landlady at The George are from Rodley, and thety have friends in Calverley (small world). tA recent loaction, location programme featured our viallge, in fact the house tey boght is about 300 yards from us..they are so going to get some stick when the go in the local pub.
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Favourite site:
Camping Nanzel, Limone, Lake
Garda..perfect for MTB, Kayak, SUP and fell running training.
Favourite areas: Provence, French Alps, Savigny (as a stop over for Southern France: Rhein valley as a stop over for Italy. 78
Chav: The term may have its origins in the Romani word chavi, meaning "child". The derivative chavette has been used to refer to females. The adjectives "chavish" and "chavtastic" have been used in relation to items designed for or suitable for use by chavs. The word existed in the 19th century; lexicographer Eric Partridge mentions it in his huge dictionary of slang and unconventional English. 'Chaval' was used to describe a boy. On BBC Learning English, Professor David Crystal wrote, "nobody knows who reactivated [the word chav] in recent times" after its historical use in Romany history.
The word in its current pejorative usage is recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary as first used in a Usenet forum in 1998 and first used in a newspaper in 2002.
By 2005 the term became widespread in its use as to refer to a type of anti-social, uncultured youth, who wear a lot of flashy jewellery, white trainers, baseball caps, sham designer clothes; the girls expose a lot of midriff.
In the 2011 book, Chavs: the Demonization of the Working Class, the author surmised that the word is an attack on the poor. In the 2010 book Stab Proof Scarecrows, it was surmised that "chav" was an abbreviation for "council housed and violent"; this created a backronym. This backronym was used in a 2012 public statement by Rapper Plan B as he spoke out to oppose the use of the term.
In 2013 David Crystal, one of the world's foremost linguistic experts on English, was featured on BBC Learning English. He said,
"People talk about 'chav behaviour' or 'chav insults' and that sort of thing. Oh, don't believe the popular etymologies that you read sometimes in the press and on websites. I saw one the other day, people said, 'It's an acronym, 'chav', from council house and violent' - well, no, it isn't, that was made up in recent times".
OK ... so that's settled
We've used the campsite in Dijon as a stop-over ... not bad at all, and very handy for the city.
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As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.
A bit like the origin of Plebs, Actually defined as a member of a despised social class, a commoner, a member of the plebs of ancient Rome. Also low-born, undisinguished, vulgar, and my personal favourite: vulgar-looking. ,
Plebs sounds more descriptive somehow....
One of my favourite terms is Philistine..again going back to Roman times.
I will always remember rehearsing with Bradford Festival Choral Society, that well known anthem I Was Glad.....a famous Hubert Parry composition popularised by the fact that it was used at Qeen Elisabeths coronation . Well being a dye hard catholic I wasn't familiar with this Anglican hymn...bless her she said 'You Philistine'. Of course a few years on I can sing it without the muisc, but at the time it was quite a challenge.
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Favourite site:
Camping Nanzel, Limone, Lake
Garda..perfect for MTB, Kayak, SUP and fell running training.
Favourite areas: Provence, French Alps, Savigny (as a stop over for Southern France: Rhein valley as a stop over for Italy. 78
The lake at the southern end of the Gorge du Verdon is lovely - but crowded in high season, as it has 'beaches', pedalos, and food stalls. However, it's good for canoeing, and you can go quite a way up the Gorge du Verdon.
Oh no, I don't do busy, this is why we liked the campsite in Gordes...in te evening when the tourists had gone it was beautiful.
I think Aquitiane is calling, at least then we can callin and see my friend in the Limousin, she has some more Alpacha and the house is almost finished.
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Favourite site:
Camping Nanzel, Limone, Lake
Garda..perfect for MTB, Kayak, SUP and fell running training.
Favourite areas: Provence, French Alps, Savigny (as a stop over for Southern France: Rhein valley as a stop over for Italy. 78
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Amazing family weekend with old steam engines, classic car displays, market stalls, and full catering and bar. And camping on site - Save £25 by booking in advance.
Topic: From Calais to Provence
