Hi, It is illegal for the driver to be able to see the screen of any display device, DVD, Sat Nav etc. I would be double cautious in France as they apply the same rules and will confiscate the device on the spot!
I mounted mine well below dash board level and was prepared to hide it in case I got pulled over by the police. Have a nice trip...Mike
Quote: Originally posted by Nimrodphil on 02/2/2008
What happens if your car has a built-in satnav. How would the French police confiscate it.
What is illegal is a speed camera detector, not the sort of thing you would find in a satnav.
and even if your GPS gives alerts of Speed Cameras, you can buy books in any Supermarket giving the locations of speed cameras. The radar detectors are illegal though and you can face a heavy fine for even having one in your possession.
What does seem to be illegal is if you can see the screen. This is why the devices always have a "voice only" option.
Both my car and my wife's car have built in sat nag's, the screens of which are clearly visible to the driver. I can not believe that Volkswagen and Volvo would sell cars in the EEC that do not meet regulations.
Have these nanny states gone as mad as ours. I can see my wife in the passenger seat when I drive. Should she be thrown out in case she distracts me ?
This site here tells you the law might help some people. lets hope my misses is better at following a sat nav than a road map. Spose I better change the voice to a sexy man for her as well
I read it, but I still do not believe that major car manufacturers would sell cars that do not conform to the law, That site may be some one's interpretation of the law. Don't forget that a while ago many people had radar detectors confiscated by the police in the UK, till they tried on with a barrister, who went to court any won. The police said that it was illegal, but it was not.
I am not suggesting that anyone should use a radar detector in their car abroad. I only quote the above as an example of how laws can be (wrongly) interpreted. I do not know what the position is in Spain, but still find it hard to believe that all manufacturers are breaking Spanish law every time they sell a car with a built in sat nag - cos all can be seen by the driver.
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I am led to believe from my spanish relatives that is why car manufacturers fitted sat navs have a voice only option whether they would prosecute you for a fixed one probably would depend on the officer stopping you, One thing is definate if it is a windscreen one or being used in the windscreen your going to get done and should it have the facility of showing speed cameras then say hello to at least a few hours in the local Spanish nick.
I have asked the outlaws to check their facts as they don't believe cars sold in spain actually have sat navs, only an option when buying new to have it installed hence hire cars having them with a warning to use voice mode only
Of course the bottom line is do you really want to argue the toss with a local Spanish copper they do tend to be very intransigent with foreigners and don't like their actions being questioned by anyone English or Spanish
You may think Spanish law is over the top but the Spanish accident death rate is terrible and the goverment is trying to do something about it
Just one other small point for those of you with the old Paper licence you still need to apply for an aa international license because our old paper ones do not have a photo
Quote: Originally posted by Michael Bird on 04/2/2008
Both my car and my wife's car have built in sat nag's, the screens of which are clearly visible to the driver. I can not believe that Volkswagen and Volvo would sell cars in the EEC that do not meet regulations.
as I said "That's why all these devices have a voice only option" Its the same as if you were trying to watch a TV and drive.
do you really want to argue the toss with a local Spanish copper they do tend to be very intransigent with foreigners and don't like their actions being questioned by anyone English or Spanish
That's because the Traffic police are the Guardia Civille (spelling?) They only have responsibility for Drugs and Traffic now. When France was alive, they had enormous powers but with the return of Democracy to Spain they lost their control - and they haven't forgotten. They were nasty B-ds years ago and they are still the same. Nothing easier than a Tourist to take it out on...
If you have a look on POCKETGPS you will find all the Countries and the restrictions that apply. Far better than trying to second guess what the answer might be.
I tried looking this up on the Foreign & Commonwealth Office website - no luck. The Spanish Embassy website - no luck. The Spain tourism website - no luck. The RAC ... yes you guessed - no luck.
However, the AA did have something:
"Apparatus with a screen which can distract a driver (such as television, video, DVD equipment) are prohibited. This excludes GPS systems. The use of radar detectors is prohibited."
[http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/touring_tips/AA_Spain.pdf]
The main thing this illustrates is what a minefield it is trying to get reliable information!
We live in Spain, and now have a Spanish registered car and use our sat nav regularly fixed to the screen as do many of our Spanish friends. We have been pulled over twice on routine checks and no one has ever suggested that being able to see the screen is illegal. I have never heard of any one over here experiencing this.
I am currently near Malaga and the only problem I have is the system is way behind all the road building/alterations and number changes.
I have a large screen system, this has not attracted any interest from the police, and I assure you they are about.
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