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10/3/2015 at 10:25pm
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The external socket on a Bailey Pegasus Milan is in a strange position if you need to use it in a porch awning. (It's approx 4 meters from the door).

Would it be safe to run a lead out of a 260 porch awning into the external socket? How waterproof are the sockets? Are they only meant to be used inside an awning?

It doesn't feel right, but I'm wondering if I'm perhaps over cautious and other members have this sort of setup?

Any advice greatly welcomed.


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10/3/2015 at 10:35pm
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Standard 240v socket or a shielded socket like the hoockup lead? Or a waterproof cover?

If its a standard socket then no it wont be waterproof.



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Yes we have a similar socket inside our wet locker door, albeit not as far from the door as yours.
We run a trailing socket from it into the porch awning to run a camping fridge, never had any problems.

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10/3/2015 at 10:56pm
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Excuse my attempts to put into a diagram what I'd like to do...




Post last edited on 10/03/2015 23:11:12

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10/3/2015 at 11:12pm
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Is the above safe?
Grey square = porch awning
Red line = household extension.

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10/3/2015 at 11:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 10/3/2015
Yes we have a similar socket inside our wet locker door, albeit not as far from the door as yours.
We run a trailing socket from it into the porch awning to run a camping fridge, never had any problems.



Thanks... Not sure the Bailey external socket is as safe as a plug within a wet locket?

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10/3/2015 at 11:36pm
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Can you move the porch along so it covers it?


11/3/2015 at 12:13am
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Not if I want to use the caravan door within the awning.
4 metre gap from plug to the right hand side of the door.
Own a 2.6 metre porch awning.

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11/3/2015 at 12:20am
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We had the same problem when we had an FC and were using the Porch Awning.
In the end we just did not use that socket when it was raining.
Instead we ran an extension out the window where the Porch Awning was.
It didn't matter that the window was slightly open because we only needed electrics in the awning when we were there anyway.

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11/3/2015 at 12:23am
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We'd be running a cool box 24/7, (only during the summer "big" holiday), so I'd rather have a permanent connection...

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going by your pic, you can move the awning up so the side of it is next to your door and not so far back on the caravan, that should then come far enough forward to allow you to use the socket in safety then


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Quote: Originally posted by kazo2014 on 11/3/2015
going by your pic, you can move the awning up so the side of it is next to your door and not so far back on the caravan, that should then come far enough forward to allow you to use the socket in safety then



[Not if I want to use the caravan door within the awning.
4 metre gap from plug to the right hand side of the door.
Own a 2.6 metre porch awning.]

We have the same problem except the socket is right at the front of the van so we cannot use it.
The socket is covered by the flap to some extent but is not waterproof when the plug is in it as far as I know      


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This is all about IP ratings.

You want IP43 as a minimum. Is there an IP number on the socket. The plug needs to be covered by the socket enclosure as well because a standard 13A plug is not IP rated.


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I can't see a problem. Its an external socket with flap which will keep the rain off. If you buy a 3mtre extention lead & replace plug with a heavy duty rubber plug then that should do the job.


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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 11/3/2015
This is all about IP ratings.

You want IP43 as a minimum. Is there an IP number on the socket. The plug needs to be covered by the socket enclosure as well because a standard 13A plug is not IP rated.



Thanks. I'll have to check the external socket for markings when I take ownership of the caravan.

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Quote: Originally posted by kazo2014 on 11/3/2015
going by your pic, you can move the awning up so the side of it is next to your door and not so far back on the caravan, that should then come far enough forward to allow you to use the socket in safety then



Are you suggesting I have the awning next to the door of the caravan?

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