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Subject Topic: Faulty Lunar windows 2013-14 models
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11/8/2014 at 1:05am
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Are yours ok? It would be good to know how many have had problems and how many are problem free.
We have a Lunar Quasar manufactured in April 2014 and are having to have 2 front windows replaced due to faults in the windows. We have waited nearly 3 months for them to arrive. Last weekend we noticed that the centre window is also warped so mentioned this when we took it for the replacements this week. It appears that there has been a fault with the windows which was recognised in 2013 but they are still installing them. On reading other forums the problem shows up during hot weather when they twist and warp. They are now putting shorter windows and an infill panel at the bottom.   

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The problem is that people don't open their caravan windows and clean the window perimeter where it seals against the rubber to allow for window expansion. All Acrylic windows are manufactured in two halves which is called a lamination process so there is an inner half and outer half which are supposed to expand and contract simultaneously during changing weather temperatures. However, if the inner half of the laminated window has adhered to the rubber window surround then something has to give which is the outer section of the window in which it starts to warp under the heat of the sunlight which finally breaks the bond between the two window sections thus the term delamination.
The window can be re-bonded back together providing the warping isn't too excessive but prevention is better than cure. The solution is to open each window independently and allow it to swing to and fro (no stays) then from the outside clean the area that seals against the window with a polish such as Autoglym window polish as this will create a slippy surface that will avoid the window from sticking to the rubber.
The proof, especially if you have an older caravan is to ask a friend to open their caravan windows particularly one they never use and see if you can hear a loud sticking crack when it's pushed open. If you do then it's evidence that the window is sticking to the rubber and in time will probably be affected by delamination. On older caravans the windows are more difficult to source via a supplier so cleaning the windows as mentioned has it's merits and can save a lot of time and money in the long term.   
   

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So not really much to do with the OP's issue.

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11/8/2014 at 8:15pm
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We have a 2013 lunar clubman. We were told at the service in March that they were replacing the windows due to a recall issue. We did have to wait , but only about four weeks. We went away in the van and saw for the first time that they were condensing up in between the panes. Credit to Grantham Caravans, they were on it before we had even noticed.

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I agree that there have been problems with window delamination in the past but my previous post was aimed at trying to avoid window delamination in the future for anyone that reads this thread especially for those with older caravans.



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12/8/2014 at 2:12am
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Been to collect our caravan today and it seems that what we were told on Friday is incorrect and itdoes seem to be the Clubman that had the problem. Hopefully it's just unfortunate that we had two faulty windows.
Thanks for the tip about opening windows which does make sense. We had a problem with our Heiki skylight when the rubber seal welded to the window due to intense heat when standing unused for a few months.

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Good news for you getting the windows replaced.
Just hope Lunar contact the Clubman owners, there are some members on here with Clubmans.



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Strange that on a caravan forum. loltr

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Heat ?. Never had that problem up here !



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As it is the 2013 van it will be changed at the annual service. From what we were told is that all the vans are being changed whether affected or not. It's a shame because I loved the long windows, it felt very modern. The replacement is smart but just looses a little something.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 12/8/2014
Strange that on a caravan forum. loltr



Your attempt at humour never really works..does it.
My comment was in relation to Manufacturers not always volunteering that kind of info to owners and are not known for their recalls.

The OP has raised a valid point that maybe not all Lunar Clubman owners are aware of.


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If it is as simple as the windows sticking then surely all vans would suffer the same problem.
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I think the OP also mentioned that the windows were warped.

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The point I was making is that if sticking windows caused warping then this surely this would apply to all makes.
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Original windows- the windows had like a "lip" at the bottom edge. This was like an overlay of the van....so bubble type window with thin lip/overlay/


Modified windows-the bubble window and instead of a lip a one piece band across the front of the van.


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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 12/8/2014
If it is as simple as the windows sticking then surely all vans would suffer the same problem.
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Not necessarily as some caravans are kept in shady areas such as at the side of a house where the windows are out of direct sunlight so there is little heat penetration. Caravans kept in open areas such as a storage facility are more likely to be affected but the bonding on some windows are better than others very much like the same reason why some caravans leak water and others don't. That's why they sometimes have a recall on certain batches of caravan windows due to a fault in the manufacturing process so any brand of caravan can be affected during a certain period of production because window sizes and designs can be identical. They are identical because it is more cost effective to produce one mould and cast hundreds of windows rather than have independent moulds for each caravan manufacturer. Caravan doors are also manufactured on the same principal.



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