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17/12/2013 at 3:03pm
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I know there is a converter cable that you can buy, but has anyone actually plumbed in an outside socket for the Electric Hook up to plug into, and if so what did you do and what should i bare in mind?

I intend to have a plug on the inside, in a normal switched socket, with a cable going through the wall to the new unit outside.
How should i protect it from moisture?

I have no other option other than putting the cable through a catflap!

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Don't have an outside socket as cable is fed through a window and then window is locked, cable just lies underneath the van.

Any trade electrical suppliers will be able to sell you what you are after and probaly give out some good advice.



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Any socket which supplies outdoor equipment must be protected buy a 30mA RCD
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17/12/2013 at 3:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 17/12/2013
Any socket which supplies outdoor equipment must be protected buy a 30mA RCD
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Why(not meant as curt as it might sound, genuinely want to know why),

and is this accomplished by the RCD on the caravan?
and how about if i still had my garage and had plugged it in in there into a normal plug socket and the cable just running under the door?

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17/12/2013 at 3:57pm
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you need one of these to phisically do what you want
towsure or any electrical supplier will have them


what saxo is saying, is if any electrical apparatus is taken outsid then the regulations state that it must be protected by an rcd, to protect against electric shock,
if your consumer unit in the house has an rcd fitted that supplies the circuit that you are going to take the supply from, then thats fine ,if not then simplt plug in one of those trippers you would use for a lawnmower ,and plug the supply for the outdoor socket into that
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17/12/2013 at 4:05pm
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perfect, and the RCD plug solution is a lot better than I thought it might be!

now, one last question, (maybe) the socket you have shown, is it weatherproof? or should i make a little box for it to live in?

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17/12/2013 at 4:13pm
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the socket shown is for outdoors.
stu
just make sure its a socket with "sockets" for the connections and not "pins" as electrical suppliers also stock them the other way round.
stu

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brilliant, thanks again.

And re sockets and pins, that is such a thing i would do...forcing 2 trips to the shop! :)

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Somewhere like B&Q sell waterproof outdoor sockets with built in circuit breakers which you could install on the outside wall. That's the set up I have but I linked it to a switched spur socket on the inside with a neon so its easy to see if its on. The only problem is you would need a spare cable to link the caravan as you would have to swap the CEE17 plug for a standard 13amp plug top.

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Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 17/12/2013
Somewhere like B&Q sell waterproof outdoor sockets with built in circuit breakers which you could install on the outside wall. That's the set up I have but I linked it to a switched spur socket on the inside with a neon so its easy to see if its on. The only problem is you would need a spare cable to link the caravan as you would have to swap the CEE17 plug for a standard 13amp plug top.

David



I have a similar setup but connected to main fuse box and use the short adaptor with 13 amp plug to connect.

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We have the EHU socket on the wall outside. Connected through house wall to a normal plug that gets plugged in when charging needed. Hole in the wall sealed with water proof sealer so no leaks into the house. Has been fine for many years.

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Strictly in accordance with building regs the installation of a socket outlet on an outside wall is notifiable and should be certified.
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 17/12/2013Strictly in accordance with building regs the installation of a socket outlet on an outside wall is notifiable and should be certified.
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I don't know how any of us have managed to get old!
We didn't have all these regulations 30 years ago.



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I agree, but you couldn't get prosecuted for doing it years ago!
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Pretty sure if it's not hard wired and is just connected internally via a 13a plug top then it's exempt from notification.



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http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

Scroll down to page 13 paragraph j.
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