Looking to buy either a new Caravan or possibly motorhome this time at the NEC.
I was at the February show looking round getting some initial thoughts and was being offered good part exchange prices for my 2019 Swift Elegance 645.
However it seems that prices for caravans at Motorhomes have increased by around 7-10% since February .
Would it be a fair assumption when negotiating part exchange at the show , that my Ekegance will have increased similarly from the p/x offered in February ?
Thanks.
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Quote: Originally posted by clbewi on 08/10/2022
Also if the dealer isn’t local and you have a warranty issue, you’ll be dragging it back to them.
Not necessarily. We purchased at the show a few years back from a dealer at the other end of the country. Collecting it was a holiday trip in itself and warranty issues were dealt with by an approved mobile engineer.
Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 08/10/2022
Check that it is in stock otherwise you will still be awaiting delivery next year like several other people on here,
Very important point.
Friends who ordered a new MH from a dealer in the Spring now have a January delivery date: every month it goes back a month.
And I dropped into Scotland’s biggest dealer last week & was shocked - the inside hangar for the new models was echoing, less than a dozen new MHs, maybe fewer caravans, widely spaced to make the place look less empty, and very very little choice: take it or leave it.
We looked at our large local dealer who are having a show. Afew new motorhomes and vans. Quite a few new Coachman vans( very expensive) some Swift. They had quite a few New Swift Basecamps.
A lot of used vans at surprisingly high prices.
A Bailey Unicorn the same age as ours was up for about what we paid for it new in 2018!
Obviously a trade in would be less but we are going to stick with it.
It still has some water ingress warranty, is stored under cover and serviced annually. No major faults in our ownership.
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This is what is concerning me when changing to a MH from the caravan.
The dealers offer extra to have the caravan now, which is tempting , downside most of the time they are not sticking to their delivery estimates for the new MH or caravan due to supply issues.
I have decided when I go to the show, that I will not be letting the dealer have my caravan until they actually have the new Caravan or Motorhome physically in their depot for PDI.
Also if they do not price fix the new ordered one, then I will make it clear that the PX they offer at the show will be on the same basis, that if the new model has risen in price yet again , before I get it, then I expect the PX offer to increase. After all it’s safe to assume that used models of caravans, motorhomes and cars are all increasing in value as the new price increases and demand is high similarly.
I was nearly tempted to order at the February show and although the new models I’m interested in have increased by 7-10% in the last 8 months, If I had ordered, could have let the caravan go at a price lower than I could have got 8 months later. On top of that the holidays I have had in U.K. and Europe would have cost a good few thousands of pounds more in last 8 months in mobile homes or lodges by not having the van.
I totally understand the economic situation and reasons for the shortage of chassis, electronic chips and other parts, however one thing is for certain at the show , if they won’t price fix the price of the new order at point of deposit, I will insist that they don’t price fix my caravan on deposit , but is revalued at whatever the PX price is on eventual delivery of the new motorhome or caravan.
One other point that I noticed at the February show when they offered me a PX on my 2019 Swift Elegance 645 , is that when I mentioned that I had fitted from new the Powrtouch AWD electronic unit , roof mounted self seeking Satellite system and Truma AC , (over 6K) of extras , they said that options or extras won’t really affect the price of the PX . This may be the case but have we all noticed how when we buy a leisure vehicle or car , how much play is based on its ‘options’ included and higher sale price even in used in most cases, but when PX it’s taken as no value other than it just makes it more appealing at resale?
I’d be surprised if you get offered more for your van than in feb, I hope I’m wrong for your sake.
I sell commercial vehicles for a living and for the 1st 6 months of this year everything was increasing in value on a weekly bases, now they are coming down as fast as they went up.
Don’t forget with the cost of living and mortgages going up money is getting tight & dealers yards are getting full again
Like I say I hope I’m wrong, but please let us know how you get get on
Hi Bessie , yes I noticed yesterday going to a large motorhome dealer they had a good amount of SH stock compared with 8 months ago. What I noticed particularly was they had a very large quantity of MH just a year or two old.
It seemed to indicate that a lot of people must be selling their recent purchases for one reason or another, probably due in part to the current economic climate and rising costs of everything?
If that is the case it will be interesting to see if any of the manufacturers or dealers at the show start offering incentives and discounts at the NEC this month to attract new orders, as it was clear this was not the case in the February show this year.
Something. will have to give, as the price increase in new motorhomes and caravans are reaching unprecedented levels which will undoubtably affect new sales orders?
What makes it likely new sales could be affected at this show is that the massive price hikes which will put many off buying new, are not due to the volume of new orders but the shortage of supplies in chassis and components.
I highly doubt that when supplies get back to normal, manufacturers will voluntarily just reduce their prices back to pre -pandemic levels, unless orders for new leisure vehicles drastically drop off to a point that some don’t survive ?
Surely your caravan resale value is going down all the time. As said before, more people are now selling their vans after the boom over the last few years. Have you not thought of looking at a MH that’s nearly new? A lot of people buy thinking they’re going to use it all the time when reality hits and it’s sat on the drive or paying storage costs. With the cost of living crisis, these are the things that people are trying to offload now, you may get a fantastic bargain!
Hi clbewi, yes I have been considering possibly buying nearly new, however I am interested to see if there are any good deals or incentives at the show on new vans first.
As I mentioned in reply to Bessie, I couldn’t believe the amount of motorhomes and camper vans that were standing on the forecourt of an independent SH dealer that were only 1-2 years old, that i visited this weekend.
It made me wonder why the main dealers always seem to have virtually no stock of young SH motorhomes?
Your also right that the caravans as with motorhomes are reducing , however at a very slow pace due to the huge increase in price and long delivery delays on many new orders.
I believe my original point is valid though, in that if it is going to take a year or so from point of order to get a new MH , but they won’t price fix the MH at point of order at the show, then it’s only fair to insist that they don’t price fix my part exchange at the show.
I don’t expect the caravan to increase in PX value, however we have seen about a 7-10% increase in MH and large increase in caravan prices , in the last 12 months. This has made the secondhand prices of both slow down their depreciation in some cases not reducing hardly at all.
At the Feb show , when I was considering the change then , dealers were offering an extra 2k approx
If I had let them have the caravan straight away.
I’m glad I didn’t go for that as the delivery of MH wouldn’t have been kept and can be up to 12 months , in some cases more .
In that time. I would have spent vastly more than the 2k on holidays and breaks by not having the caravan .
As a point of interest , on SH nearly new motorhomes , do dealers/manufacturers still transfer the balance of the original warranty across to the new owner? Just as importantly if not purchased from a main dealer , what happens if there is warranty work required and it’s been supplied by an independent?.
We all know the reluctance for a dealer to work on any motorhome or caravan they have not supplied ?
Quote: Originally posted by clbewi on 10/10/2022
Surely your caravan resale value is going down all the time. As said before, more people are now selling their vans after the boom over the last few years. Have you not thought of looking at a MH that’s nearly new? A lot of people buy thinking they’re going to use it all the time when reality hits and it’s sat on the drive or paying storage costs. With the cost of living crisis, these are the things that people are trying to offload now, you may get a fantastic bargain!
However with Cost of Living squeeze a caravan is probably the cheaper option than an overseas holiday. Caravans are still commanding high prices due to huge delays.
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Topic: Buying New at NEC
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