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16/6/2012 at 10:21pm
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Hi  we have a witter towbar that has been on a number of years around 5 I think ,we also have a 2002 fleetwood colchester. At easter when we towed the van we noticed the right hand side of ven when the plugs were in. The indicators worked both sides and the  were blinking  ok too, just the light on the right side was out. Sowe sprayed with WD 40 and all was ok . Last week we towed again and same thing happened although when we were on the way home it went off again .It was daylight luckily, but it looks like the grey plug thats causing it has anyone got any idea what it might be and could we fix it ourselves . We dont know if its the cars plug or the vans plug thats the problem can anyone give us any advice it would be really appreciated thanks

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16/6/2012 at 10:26pm
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The trailer lights work off the black plug. Can you borrow a trailer board to see if it's the car or caravan causing the problem? Or you could check each pin of the socket with a tester of some kind.

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16/6/2012 at 10:32pm
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Clean up the pins with emery cloth, and sometimes the pins with splits in them need opening up slightly to ensure a good contact. Black plug as above

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16/6/2012 at 10:59pm
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sounds like you need the black plug and the socket checking,possible loose wire.

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17/6/2012 at 12:20am
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To be fair the 12N and S connections aren't the best design and do weaken plus suffer with mild surface corrosion over time.
Dismantle the plug and socket and check for loose connections, but also consider Madasaman's comment too regarding cleaning of the terminals.
I've developed the habit of squirting switch cleaner into my fittings (plugs and sockets) at every use and as a consequence, have experienced less bother with these connections over recent years.

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17/6/2012 at 12:25am
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thanks will try cleaning the terminals with emery paper its the grey plug what we are having trouble with we think michael as its the drivers side of the car which lights are not working we will give them a clean tomorrow and let you know what happens

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17/6/2012 at 1:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by maggie51 on 17/6/2012
thanks will try cleaning the terminals with emery paper its the grey plug what we are having trouble with we think michael as its the drivers side of the car which lights are not working we will give them a clean tomorrow and let you know what happens

No it is the black socket. ALL the lights are sorted on the black socket apart from any reversing light. The grey socket only deals with the fridge, charge for the battery and power for the van, you can quite happily and legally tow a caravan with only the black socket connected and have all the road lights working.

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17/6/2012 at 6:21am
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For what they cost, it's well worth replacing both plug and socket. They are about £5 each and well worth replacing every couple of years as they do give trouble. For what they cost it's not worth the hastle of jiggling the plug around and wondering all the way if they still work.

I change mine about every 2 years as I find after about two years they can start to play up.


17/6/2012 at 6:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 17/6/2012
For what they cost, it's well worth replacing both plug and socket. They are about £5 each and well worth replacing every couple of years as they do give trouble. For what they cost it's not worth the hastle of jiggling the plug around and wondering all the way if they still work.

I change mine about every 2 years as I find after about two years they can start to play up.
I was just reading through and was going to post exactly the same, If you're stripping them to clean them, just replace them.

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17/6/2012 at 8:49am
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Thanks are they difficult to replace the plugs we have never done it before ??? how does the wiring diagram work thanks

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17/6/2012 at 9:16am
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Fiddly more than difficult, wiring diagram here for Both plugs
Here

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17/6/2012 at 9:24am
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thanks wer are not very confident on diy or electrics but have started doing bits ourselves so we are going to try and clean them up and if that dosent work then try replace the plugs thanks everyone

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17/6/2012 at 9:27am
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Just take your time and you'll be OK. Just make sure you have plug as pic. Pins with cross are male, others are female.

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17/6/2012 at 9:37am
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thanks madasaman oh has just gone for some electrical contact cleaner from halfords as we only used wd 40 before but have been told it evaporates so need proper cleaner i am looking on e bay now for the plugs cheere everyone

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17/6/2012 at 9:52am
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Halfords sell them

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17/6/2012 at 1:21pm
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thanks just picked 2 plugs up the grey one has fell apart so looks like changing them it is

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