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10/7/2011 at 11:04pm
 Location: N Lincs
 Outfit: Bailey Ranger 460 4 & Atakama 5
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Well we're getting on ok with the caravan . Just one issue though... where we have to store it at home requires that I reverse partly round a corner, slightly uphill. We then finish swivelling by hand and push her in.    

I read on another post that this shouldn't be done as it will be reversing with the caravan's overrun brake on - is that so? If it is, how the heck do I get it backed round enough to take over by hand?   

The last time I did it, I didn't get her round far enough and the hitch was compressed (is that the right description) and so of course when hubby freed it the hitch made an attempt to make friends with the car bumper - fortunately it didn't quite succeed. Methinks some wood offcuts to make chocks from might go on the shopping list!

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10/7/2011 at 11:06pm
 Location: N Lincs
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Oh... and no suggesting I get a motormover... it'd cost more than the caravan (1989) is worth!

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11/7/2011 at 7:04am
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Esterelle Caramatic T39
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I have a mover fitted to my 1984 van and could not do without it.
Most movers can be transferred to another van or removed and sold on as they hold their price very well
John


11/7/2011 at 7:19am
 Location: Kent
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Re the compression of the tow hitch one way to overcome this is when you have finished reversing, apply the caravan handbrake and then let the car roll forward to stretch the hitch out.

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11/7/2011 at 9:29am
 Location: Lichfield
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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I read on another post that this shouldn't be done as it will be reversing with the caravan's overrun brake on - is that so? If it is, how the heck do I get it backed round enough to take over by hand?  

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Yes that is right and the caravan handbrake doesn't operate as efficiently when the draw bar is pushed in but firstly you need to know how it functions to understand the mechanics behind it. Behind the hitch is a draw bar (shaft) that slides back and forth which operates the caravan brakes simultaneously. When the towcar pulls the caravan it pulls the draw bar out in order to release the brakes. When the towcar brakes, the caravan then pushes against the towbar which in turn compresses the draw bar and operates the caravan brakes. So this is the evidence that when the draw bar is compressed it operates the caravan brakes which you don't want. All you have to do is pull the hitch forward by hand but it will take a bit of force to to do or you could use the towcar to do this before you unhitch. The way to do it is slightly apply the caravan handbrake first and just drive the car forward enough to pull the draw bar out fully then apply the caravan handbrake fully. When you unhitch, the caravan will then remain stationary. You then move the caravan by hand by releasing the caravan handbrake with the draw bar pulled out. If you are on an incline then you are best to use some chocks for assistance whilst maneuvring.



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11/7/2011 at 9:29am
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
 Outfit: Coachman Laser 650 and Discovery
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I've never had any problems arise from reversing uphill.  As Zafiral says, when you've gone as far as you're going, apply the caravan handbrake, chock the wheels, and let the car roll forward enough to uncompress the hitch.

Jim



11/7/2011 at 9:31am
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You should get a bumper protection plate..This will stop the hitch from hitting the car




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11/7/2011 at 9:35am
 Location: Lichfield
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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Jeff is quite right and I have one of those fitted behind my towball too but I have the stainless steel one as it not only stronger but they don't rust either. After a couple of years the black steel type starts to rust which makes the towbar look a bit unsightly.


11/7/2011 at 10:38am
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I use one of these.

It's not on the car long enough to go rusty.

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11/7/2011 at 11:07am
 Location: Lichfield
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Richard.....So it looks like the plate with two holes is permanently bolted behind the towball and then the vee plate just slots in between the two and removed after hitching up?  If it is then this is a brilliant idea and I admit that I have never seen them before. Good price too.


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11/7/2011 at 12:07pm
 Location: Kent
 Outfit: ex Caravanner now Static.
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On my Honda Civic (2 cars ago), I had a flange towball, with a black slot-in protector plate. From memory it had two washers to space the towbar and the fitting.

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11/7/2011 at 8:05pm
 Location: DURHAM
 Outfit: Mondeo TItanium 140 Avondale Mayfly 25
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Motor Mover, Cheaper than a new clutch on todays vehicles with Dual Mass flywheels.


11/7/2011 at 8:43pm
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
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Treble said mover was not an option
Jim


11/7/2011 at 8:49pm
 Location: Sitingbourne
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Quote: Originally posted by treble on 10/7/2011
Well we're getting on ok with the caravan . Just one issue though... where we have to store it at home requires that I reverse partly round a corner, slightly uphill. We then finish swivelling by hand and push her in.    

I read on another post that this shouldn't be done as it will be reversing with the caravan's overrun brake on - is that so? If it is, how the heck do I get it backed round enough to take over by hand?   

The last time I did it, I didn't get her round far enough and the hitch was compressed (is that the right description) and so of course when hubby freed it the hitch made an attempt to make friends with the car bumper - fortunately it didn't quite succeed. Methinks some wood offcuts to make chocks from might go on the shopping list!
There is no problem reversing a caravan as the brakes are designed to disengage when reversing how ever if you need to unhitch on a downhill slope you need to put the van hand brake on & REVERSE the car slightly to engage the hand brake fully( it will move to a vertical position) you will then need to let the car run forwards to extend the drawbar to release the hitch. But to be safe always chock the wheels before you unhitch


11/7/2011 at 9:13pm
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Yes I read what Treble said about it not being an option, as someone else mentioned earlier.


12/7/2011 at 8:35pm
 Location: N Lincs
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Thanks everyone - some useful information there about how the braking works.

A motor mover really is not an option, no dosh left having bought the towcar and caravan this year.   It's only a problem at home - it's really just a case of getting the best routine sorted.   I think the bumper protector is a good idea, but I already have a cycle carrier behind the towbar (Witter's own) so not sure if I can add anything else - might pop back to the place that fitted it and ask, they might even stick one on gratis for me!

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May: Evesham
June: Walesby Woodlands (Market Rasen)
July: Tewkesbury
Aug: Shepton Mallet & Lincoln



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