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17/5/2011 at 1:53pm
 Location: Stroud
 Outfit: W202 1998 C240. '87 CI Cosmos Voyager
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Anyone knowe of a source for this info? There is none for my CI van, 1987 vintage, so how do you members work out all the loading legalities without an MTPLM?

Apparently, if you are unaware of it, you are breaking the law, and potentuially hurting all the kittens in the world along with Nuns and Brothers of the cloth. Tongue firmly in cheek there.

It is a serious consideration and I'd be VERY interested to know how classic/oldskool/retro caravans are made to comply with 2011 legislation.

Jim

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17/5/2011 at 2:07pm
 Location: whitstable kent
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Hi I think I've found your vans weight I did a little bit of googling and internetty stuff and I found this trawling through pages.
CI cosmos voyager 1987
Unladen 840kg
Mass laden 1060kg

:) it looks lovely too does it come with the chairs as they are fab!!!
Donna


17/5/2011 at 2:17pm
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Back in 2007 Mrs Goose posted that she had a CI Cosmos Voyager maybe if you email the web master he may put you in touch with her to see if she still has it and has the technical data.

Wherever did you find that info Murano, I've been searching to no avail? Any idea of the max noseweight and tyre pressures as Jim will need that as well???

Phil

 



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17/5/2011 at 2:17pm
 Location: Stroud
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You, Murano, are the epitomy of awesomeness. Thank you!

Chairs not included, but I intend to negotiate for the tablecloth.

Just out of interest, where did you find the unladen weight?

Is the GVW quoted in the sellers ad, the MTPLM?

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17/5/2011 at 2:21pm
 Location: whitstable kent
 Outfit: sterling eccles sport 584 freelander 2
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Lol I'm off sick so have time on my hands lol, plus if I tell you I will have to kill you lol lol, no I just did a detailed search and found your van. I tried to link it to you but it was such an old topic that it wouldn't link.
I think you should get the tablecloth and the chairs ;D


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17/5/2011 at 2:29pm
 Location: whitstable kent
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If I find out the noseweight ect I want those chairs!!! Lol
Shall do another search, I may be gone a long time!!!
Donna :)

Some info
it cost £5985 when new which was quite expensive at the time so it was top of the range and hand standard items of RM270 fridge, heater, oven, double glazing, hot water & shower from a crystal water pump and mains electrics with Zig CF 2000 charger. It was 19'10" overall, 14;9" internal, quite wide at 7'5", unladen weight 840kg, gross weight 1060kg. Yours will be a 4/5 berth (84-87) while in 1984 and 1985 they did a 2 berth version.

Still can't find tyre stuff yet

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17/5/2011 at 3:21pm
 Location: Stoke-on-Trent
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Loving the van, just had a nose on eBay at the sold ad!

Congrats again Jim oo I love it when someone gets their first van!

And yes the gross vehicle weight = MTPLM

Andi


17/5/2011 at 3:26pm
 Location: whitstable kent
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Quote: Originally posted by Tunstallwood on 17/5/2011
Loving the van, just had a nose on eBay at the sold ad!

Congrats again Jim oo I love it when someone gets their first van!

And yes the gross vehicle weight = MTPLM

Andi


Me too, you can't beat that excitement, I get excited for everyone :D


17/5/2011 at 3:37pm
 Location: Lancashire
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in my book there are two CI SPRITES one 1989 and one 1985.first max gross = 16.7 cwt,later = max gross =14.5 cwt.more info if required.

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17/5/2011 at 5:42pm
 Location: Stroud
 Outfit: W202 1998 C240. '87 CI Cosmos Voyager
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CI Sprite? I thought it was a Cosmos Voyager.. Be grand if it turned out the same van was made under a different name as there would be more chance of finding parts for it.

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17/5/2011 at 5:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by murano on 17/5/2011
If I find out the noseweight ect I want those chairs!!! Lol
Shall do another search, I may be gone a long time!!!
Donna :)

Some info
it cost £5985 when new which was quite expensive at the time so it was top of the range and hand standard items of RM270 fridge, heater, oven, double glazing, hot water & shower from a crystal water pump and mains electrics with Zig CF 2000 charger. It was 19'10" overall, 14;9" internal, quite wide at 7'5", unladen weight 840kg, gross weight 1060kg. Yours will be a 4/5 berth (84-87) while in 1984 and 1985 they did a 2 berth version.

Still can't find tyre stuff yet


WOW! Thanks for the info, that is fantastic. I'll be getting the van on Saturday, and he has ALL the paperwork from new with it. Cannot wait to sit down in the caravan with a beer, parked on my driveway, reading all about it.

If the chairs are in with the deal, they are yours!


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17/5/2011 at 5:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Tunstallwood on 17/5/2011
Loving the van, just had a nose on eBay at the sold ad!

Congrats again Jim oo I love it when someone gets their first van!

And yes the gross vehicle weight = MTPLM

Andi


I have never, ever, ever, seen my wife SO excited. She was literally leaping around the house shouting "WOW, so excited" "I cannot wait", "WOW". Brought a tear to my eye it did. Especially sweet when I hit the BIN button when she was out of the room and then pretended the van had been sold just aminute or so earlier. She wanted to know who had the cheek to buy "our" caravan! Then I scrolled down and she saw it was me that had won the auction.

Priceless!


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17/5/2011 at 5:56pm
 Location: whitstable kent
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I'm so happy for you and your wife I remember how it was wham we got our first van I couldn't sleep my hubby was as bad :D you are going to have a great time, I tried to find out more but drew a blank, I should think though it will have had new tyre's over the years anyway so I'm sure it's previous owner will know all that for you anyway :)
So pleased for you both, it looks a lovely van and I'm sure you will both have a lot of fun with it.
Enjoy :D
Donna :)


17/5/2011 at 6:09pm
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I love sitting in the van on the front! All the paperwork is a fantastic thing to have hehe I'm getting all excited for you, good job no one can see me here grinning like a cheshire cat!! Don't forget more pics and info once you have it all. Get a pitch booked too!

Andi


17/5/2011 at 6:36pm
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CI Cosmos voyager main photois yours like this? ,sorry thought you meant a CI sprite.

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17/5/2011 at 6:42pm
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This one Michael

Andi



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