We are just about to take our new acquisition - a four year old Bailey Ranger 470 / 4 - away for the first time and I've decided to replace all our "essential" equipment (water carriers, crockery and cutlery etc) with brand new stuff. I have always used a waste carrier to collect water from the sink and shower outlets, and dutifully emptied it down the chemical loo disposal point but it recently occurred to me that I have never seen anyone else doing that. In fact, I don't recall seeing anyone else emptying "grey water" carriers anywhere! My brother insists that many caravanners put a waste carrier in place under their vans, but let the waste hose dangle outside it so the waste water goes onto the ground, saving them the hassle of emptying it. But I'm not so sure. Can anyone reassure me that I am not the only one using waste carriers properly? Is there usually somewhere to dispose of sink waste other than the chemical loo disposal point?
There is usually a drain near the water supply for grey water, never let the water drain into the ground it will start to smell apart from the legal issues. I only use the chemical disposal point for the loo contents.
How odd that you have never seen anyone else emptying theirs . I think that it is the norm to use waste carriers, I always see people using them on site , emptying at the cdp. Most use the waste hog to carru the loo cassette to the cdp.
Some sites may have additional grey water disposal points, but the ones i've used its always at the loo emtying point.
As for people just being lazy and letting the water run into the ground, well, I guess there may be some who do that,(like fly tippers and people who don't clean up after their dogs ) but surely that would just make their pitch soggy ?
there are sites with 'super' pitches in which you can direct drain your grey water into a set place using a hose, maybe that is what your brother is thinking of. Of course these pitches cost more than the standard ones. these pitches usually also have direct water connections for fresh water (no more aqua roll) and some even have points for connecting tv ariels !
Letting the grey water drain out into the ground is unhygienic, inconsiderate of other pitch users and (generally) a breach of the site rules. It can also be illegal. As part of the camp site risk assessment the proprietor should have in place arrangements to ensure that grey water cannot drain into a watercourse and that it is properly filtered as part of the disposal process i.e through the appropriate drainage disposal systems.
It is a standard condition in a Caravan Site licence for the proprietor to be required to have separate waste and chemical toilet disposal points. Some chemical toilet disposal points can take both toilet and grey but most have not been designed for that purpose.
Unless you are using a fully serviced I think everyone has a waste water tank to trundle to the disposal point.
"My brother insists that many caravanners put a waste carrier in place under their vans, but let the waste hose dangle outside it so the waste water goes onto the ground, saving them the hassle of emptying it"
I think not
Phil
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i only use samll sites and rally sites and camping or caravaing i have allway seen people use them. even when camping we and most people i know haved a minium of a lidded bucket for grey watre
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My brother insists that many caravanners put a waste carrier in place under their vans, but let the waste hose dangle outside it so the waste water goes onto the ground, saving them the hassle of emptying it"
pity the one pitching his awning over the top of it,the smell can be awful.ps don't let the warden catch him.and then there are the rats looking for tit bits of food from the washing up water.
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Post last edited on 09/03/2011 15:36:02
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I always use a 'Wastemaster' as the construction is manufactured all in one which makes it more robust in comparison to the Pyramid 'Waste Hog' as I use it as a trolley to transport the cassette toilet to the CDP (Chemical Disposal Point). The 'Waste Hog' has a drop down platform on hinges which is not so strong in comparison. However, if using commercial sites there is always a specific point to empty grey water but if you are using a rally field where there is only a fresh water tap and a CDP, the farmer doesn't usually object to you ditching the water into long grass around the hedge perimeter providing that it is ONLY used fresh water with no harmful chemicals in the contents such as bleach, discinfectant or toilet chemicals. Grey water on it's own does no harm to wildlife or the environment and will soak into the ground no different to rain. I rarely use commercial sites but when I do I always use the designated emptying point provided by the site and obey the rules.
Quote: Originally posted by Conosseur on 09/3/2011
Just to be clear - my brother doesn't do that himself! He is as conscientious as I am. But he does claim to have witnessed others doing it.
yes i have too,one caravan was there for two weeks next us.
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Quote: Originally posted by andcow on 09/3/2011there are sites with 'super' pitches in which you can direct drain your grey water into a set place using a hose, maybe that is what your brother is thinking of. Of course these pitches cost more than the standard ones. these pitches usually also have direct water connections for fresh water (no more aqua roll) and some even have points for connecting tv ariels !
We will use our aqua Roll on a super pitch we use a
Caravan Mains Water Valve Adaptor for Aquaroll its very good .
We always empty the waste water properly when on a proper large site but have actually been asked to tip it in a hedge bottom when on a CL by the owner, normally farmers. This is because they have a cesspit which they have to pay to have emptied. I have also been told that modern washing up liquid and bleach type chemicals stops bacteria from doing what it's supposed to do in cesspits. I stress that the hedge bottom is not normally anywhere near the pitch.
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Topic: Do caravanners still use waste hogs?
