film sent to me is worth looking at ! esp note how the sides and roof are joined ! a very nice system but I tend to think its a problem waiting to happen with new caravan construction. as its such a small seal to the top areas doing such an important job. OK if within warranty but if out ???? but thats modern construction for you.
Main advantage is that the panels are one piece composite with closed cell construction that cannot soak up water so it the joints did leak & not be repaired, there is no wood in the structure to go rotten.
The design appears sound but it would rely on quailty sealant & fixings being used. It just borrows from commercial vehicle body building such as fridge bodies on trucks.
Quote: Originally posted by Tentz on 13/2/2011
Main advantage is that the panels are one piece composite with closed cell construction that cannot soak up water so it the joints did leak & not be repaired, there is no wood in the structure to go rotten.
The design appears sound but it would rely on quailty sealant & fixings being used. It just borrows from commercial vehicle body building such as fridge bodies on trucks.
yep my thoughts also. just hope the lad who sticks it is always as attentative when the camera is not there. one lack of silicone or what every is used at a cupboard or unit area and after being closed for a while the damage is done. great is as I said its a new unit under warranty ! but a silicone seal in all aspects of the building trade is looked as a temp seal with a limited life. expect the small print is the same with this system. the workmanship and material is guranteed but seals and joints are limited.
Certainly with a labour intensive process like this the workmanship of individuals is crucial. One inadequate application of sealant while thoughts are elsewhere & somebodies £18k dream turns into a nightmare.
Cars have been far better since they have been built by robots.
I think you are all missing the point a little. All the panels are pulled together via clamps/bolts that are attached to the alutech trim. It looks as though they still use the non setting mastic as a sealant. The point is that once the van goes on the open road the panels will move maybe only slightly but enough to losen and possibly compromise the integrity of the seals. The clamps will need retorquing periodically but you are relying on your service engineers to do this correctly - I have a little scepticism on this front - But great video very interesting
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You should go to the Bailey web site and see the Alutech videos, they end up with the tow car, I think its a Mondeo or similar, picked up by crane and placed on the roof of the van with the design team about a dozen people as well!!! Its a very strong constuction, its also the first van to be tested at Millbooke proving ground. We have one and think its fantastic!
“The clamps will need retorquing periodically” ........... except those in the bathroom area which are ‘too difficult to get at’.Where is the logic in that?
I think Baileys construction of the panels is nearly spot on. Doing away with wood can only be a good thing here, however after watching the video, you can see that the panel edges are still made of wood. It must be the internal spars and noggins that are made from UPVC. Where there is mastic, water can still get in.
Quote: Originally posted by Jerry+Tina on 10/3/2011
I think Baileys construction of the panels is nearly spot on. Doing away with wood can only be a good thing here, however after watching the video, you can see that the panel edges are still made of wood. It must be the internal spars and noggins that are made from UPVC. Where there is mastic, water can still get in.
There is NO wood used in the constuction, what you can see on the edge is the insulation material that is sandwiched between the aluminum outer skin and the inner fiberglass skin, Take a look at the Alutech videos on the Bailey website, trust me you'll be amazed! They subject one of these vans to 24/7 treatment round the Millbrooke proving ground, Nothing came loose! also they put it into a cold chamber and took it down to some silly temps, something like -50 and it passed!! it has the best insulation on the market. http://www.baileyalu-tech.co.uk/index2.php
Oh there's no question on the quality what so ever.
the question comes as to what will happen a few years along the line with a small joint such as is. weather changes and the very fact that its a seal raised the question of what will happen when the warranty has ended.
I guess its like the Auto industry made for a limited life and very little chance of one ever getting old and cherished. with folk paying upto 20k will they hold their value in ten years. thats a min of four holidays each year to get the return on your outlay. e.g. £250 each time its used x4 x10 resale value at 10yr old ? in reality many cant afford to allow £100 each time they used their caravan in write off value.
once leaks arrise after the three year warranty and its value "may" plummet. there are so many links here alone about leaking caravans and the cost of repair.
not everyone can afford a new caravan and have a very limited budget.
Quote: Originally posted by bluesriff on 10/3/2011
There is NO wood used in the constuction, what you can see on the edge is the insulation material that is sandwiched between the aluminum outer skin and the inner fiberglass skin, Take a look at the Alutech videos on the Bailey website, trust me you'll be amazed! They subject one of these vans to 24/7 treatment round the Millbrooke proving ground, Nothing came loose! also they put it into a cold chamber and took it down to some silly temps, something like -50 and it passed!! it has the best insulation on the market. http://www.baileyalu-tech.co.uk/index2.php
I beg to differ sir, there is a wood strip along the bottom of the van that is quite clearly visible in the video through which the screws are secured to the wall panels. I owned a Bailey so don't need amazing, thank you.
Quote: Originally posted by Jerry+Tina on 11/3/2011
Quote: Originally posted by bluesriff on 10/3/2011
There is NO wood used in the constuction, what you can see on the edge is the insulation material that is sandwiched between the aluminum outer skin and the inner fiberglass skin, Take a look at the Alutech videos on the Bailey website, trust me you'll be amazed! They subject one of these vans to 24/7 treatment round the Millbrooke proving ground, Nothing came loose! also they put it into a cold chamber and took it down to some silly temps, something like -50 and it passed!! it has the best insulation on the market. http://www.baileyalu-tech.co.uk/index2.php
I beg to differ sir, there is a wood strip along the bottom of the van that is quite clearly visible in the video through which the screws are secured to the wall panels. I owned a Bailey so don't need amazing, thank you.
Ok I've just watched the video again, and the first two minutes are showing you how the OLD vans were put together that do have wooden batons round the edges then it goes on to the Alutech construction, which shows the new panels which DO NOT have wood in the panels, I know I've got one!!
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