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17/6/2010 at 3:20pm
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I'm trying to buy a spare wheel for my van and it's proving trickier than I imagined...

I know the tyre size but places that sell these things have wheels with different PCDs (which I've never heard of before). It's basically a measurement of the location of the stud holes in relation to the hub and I've found a method of working it out but it requires taking the wheel off. With the van in storage, that's not easily done and PCDs are quoted only a few mm different - I don't trust myself to measure it properly.

I've e-mailed the main dealer (it's a Geist, so there's only one official importer) and they're not replying. The manufacturers website doesn't have that much detail and the dealer I bought it from don't seem to know but have offered to sell me a spare for £155, which is about 3 times the price of everywhere else (and I have to drive 150 miles to get it).

Any suggestions? Or should I just risk it and go for this one, which doesn't even mention a PCD?



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17/6/2010 at 3:26pm
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the one in the advert says it is a 5 stud (holes) but the picture is showing a 4 stud.

which is yours?

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.towsure.com/category/60-Wheels



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17/6/2010 at 3:28pm
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Yes, I noticed that - mine's a 5 stud and I'm assuming the words are correct and the pic is just a library job...

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17/6/2010 at 3:35pm
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what is your tyre size? ask here

http://www.caravanbreakers.net/



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17/6/2010 at 5:27pm
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You can't risk it.  You need to get the right one.  Can you give them a ring?

Otherwise, get a piece of thin card, hold it over the wheel centre, and push your thumb into each of the holes to make a dent. 

Post it to them.  They should be able to pick between the alternatives from that.

Of course, you will need to get the wheel off. 

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17/6/2010 at 10:24pm
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Damn, thought that might be the answer - thank you all...

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17/6/2010 at 10:36pm
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there are a few wheels with 5 studs on ebay but i do not know your tyre size.see

180520185822/195/70/R14 96 S  5STUD

150455529422/185/70 R13 / 5JKX13 5STUD

2504955723306 / 175 R14  5STUD



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18/6/2010 at 7:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by nelmo on 17/6/2010

I'm trying to buy a spare wheel for my van and it's proving trickier than I imagined...

I know the tyre size but places that sell these things have wheels with different PCDs (which I've never heard of before). It's basically a measurement of the location of the stud holes in relation to the hub and I've found a method of working it out but it requires taking the wheel off. With the van in storage, that's not easily done and PCDs are quoted only a few mm different - I don't trust myself to measure it properly.

I've e-mailed the main dealer (it's a Geist, so there's only one official importer) and they're not replying. The manufacturers website doesn't have that much detail and the dealer I bought it from don't seem to know but have offered to sell me a spare for £155, which is about 3 times the price of everywhere else (and I have to drive 150 miles to get it).

Any suggestions? Or should I just risk it and go for this one, which doesn't even mention a PCD?

I think you also need to know the offset of the wheel as well as the PCD   I think this info is usually stamped on the inner side of the wheel


18/6/2010 at 9:07am
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  Hi, I sometimes wonder, that if you buy the correct Tyre for the wheel , could the AA or RAC put it on the wheelrim  for you ??, on the Roadside, if needed ???.....(just a silly thought)......

              Werner.



18/6/2010 at 9:43am
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Hi nelmo. www.Mobi-tyre.co.uk. Telephone no. 0800 055 6099. They come out to fit with no call out charge. Not used them yet but am planning to. I'd give them a ring and ask for advise

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18/6/2010 at 11:29am
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Quote: Originally posted by werner3 on 18/6/2010

  Hi, I sometimes wonder, that if you buy the correct Tyre for the wheel , could the AA or RAC put it on the wheelrim  for you ??, on the Roadside, if needed ???.....(just a silly thought)......

              Werner.




I phoned the AA and asked the question. Still not sure if I got an answer! LOL! They said they covered the car you were in. If that was attached to a caravan, then that would not be left at the side of the road if your car broke down. I asked specifically if they would change a tyre in the event of a flat on the caravan I was towing, they said no. So what now?

Will be watching this thread with interest!

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If you have an old spare, you could take that to a garage and get a new one the same size.

My local tyre supplier actually came out and checked I had the right one, and put it back on the A frame for me! If you have a tyre place pretty near to you, go and ask them. They will know.

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18/6/2010 at 11:39am
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Quote: Originally posted by Jax365 on 18/6/2010
If you have an old spare, you could take that to a garage and get a new one the same size.

My local tyre supplier actually came out and checked I had the right one, and put it back on the A frame for me! If you have a tyre place pretty near to you, go and ask them. They will know.

Unfortunately, I have nothing at the moment (new van didn't come with a spare).

Off to the storage site at the weekend to try get the wheel off and measure up...fun, fun, fun...



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18/6/2010 at 11:41am
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Quote: Originally posted by Jax365 on 18/6/2010

I phoned the AA and asked the question. Still not sure if I got an answer! LOL! They said they covered the car you were in. If that was attached to a caravan, then that would not be left at the side of the road if your car broke down. I asked specifically if they would change a tyre in the event of a flat on the caravan I was towing, they said no. So what now?

Will be watching this thread with interest!


I will also be watching for any posts relating to this question.  I have never had a tyre go on the caravan, and I'd rather assumed that if it did, I could ring for someone to come and change it, like I do with the car.  I would find the whole process a bit physically demanding, having had two replacement shoulder joints and with the knees scheduled in to be done when the government can afford it ().  Do Mayday (Green Flag) change wheels on the caravan?  Please say, "Yes!", someone!

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18/6/2010 at 12:14pm
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hope so we have them too.

http://www.greenflag.com/breakdown/#tab-cover_options



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18/6/2010 at 9:46pm
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Nelmo - Not only do you need to get the correct PCD you need the correct offset and the correct size centre hole. You cannot guess any of these dimensions, your best option if you are not confident to determine these is to take one of your wheels to a tyre dealer or trailer dealer and I am sure they will advise you what you need.



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