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Subject Topic: It`s Official - Bailey Senator is no more
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10/1/2010 at 11:38pm
 Location: Lancashire
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Bailey is stopping production of its top-of-the-range caravan, the Senator 6, because sales of the Pegasus have been so huge. The next new Bailey, the Olympus, will be unveiled at the NEC show in February.

Announcement here

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11/1/2010 at 9:04am
 Location: nw Leicestershire
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sad day

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11/1/2010 at 10:07am
 Location: Lancashire
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sad day indeed as its been a fine caravan to own,having said that i do like the new pegasus a lot.

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11/1/2010 at 12:51pm
 Location: South Wales
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I got a new Pageant last year, so It'll be a while before I look at a new van

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11/1/2010 at 1:59pm
 Location: Southwest
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Quote: Originally posted by John Evans on 11/1/2010
I got a new Pageant last year, so It'll be a while before I look at a new van

We got a new Provence series7 last summer as well John, very nice it is too. Same to see the end of the Senator though, they just always seem to have been there don't they.

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11/1/2010 at 3:25pm
 Location: West Scotland
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the olympus is replacing the pageant, how long until the ranger is replaced with alu-tech. also how long until explorer and swift use a simalar construction. give it a year and the bonded sandwich will be a thing of the past

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11/1/2010 at 3:57pm
 Location: Southampton
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IMO the only decent 'van in the range, what a shame.


11/1/2010 at 7:11pm
 Location: North Yorks
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As a Senator series 6 owner I am worried that this will devalue our van. We love the van and are sticking with it until our offspring spring off(!) in 2 or 3 years, but its a worry for the future?


11/1/2010 at 7:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by alan126 on 11/1/2010
the olympus is replacing the pageant, how long until the ranger is replaced with alu-tech. also how long until explorer and swift use a simalar construction. give it a year and the bonded sandwich will be a thing of the past

Blimey, I wasn't expecting to see the Pageant go it, like the Senator ust seems to have always been around. I suppose they'll want to run one build process so will want all ranges built the same way. Never mind, our Pageant should last us a while yet.

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11/1/2010 at 7:32pm
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thing is the layouts are pants, 4 berth van with the washroom across the back?? means anyone sleeping up front that wants a leak during the night wakes up the folk kipping in the fixed bed. they look good, they seem to be glued and screwed together well but they need a wee bit of innovation for layouts

as for resale values, a 1 or 2 year old sandwich construction van will be taking a hit compared to alu-tech. run them until they fall to bits. amazes me why folk change vans every few years, wasting money imo, unless it is essential like having more kids



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12/1/2010 at 12:01am
 Location: Lancashire
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Quote: Originally posted by alan126 on 11/1/2010

thing is the layouts are pants, 4 berth van with the washroom across the back?? means anyone sleeping up front that wants a leak during the night wakes up the folk kipping in the fixed bed. they look good, they seem to be glued and screwed together well but they need a wee bit of innovation for layouts

as for resale values, a 1 or 2 year old sandwich construction van will be taking a hit compared to alu-tech. run them until they fall to bits. amazes me why folk change vans every few years, wasting money imo, unless it is essential like having more kids




You're assuming that anyone with a four-berth van has four people sleeping in it. Many do not. However, I agree that the Peggy needs a bit more thought on the inside to match the great design of the construction. That said, it will be interesting to see what the Olympus is like - I've not seen any info on it, or where it fits into the range.

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12/1/2010 at 10:49am
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perhaps it is my tenters mindset here but i can appreciate that probably the majority of 4 berth fixed bed vans are used as 2 berth

okay if i was buying 1 here is my idea, island fixed bed, washroom in the middle with seperate shower, 1 person can shower while other (does what 1 does on the loo lol) kitchen with 2 gas burners and induction electric hob, all in one grill/oven not too big, microwave mounted low down. lounge with space for 6 to sit in confort, built in mp3 with plenty of speakers and cable connection to laptop for sound. spare wheel not mounted in alko carrier under the van, good jacking points, mover built in as part of build, solar panels built into roof to charge battery if not on EHU



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12/1/2010 at 11:02am
 Location: nr Derby
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Seems your layout would give a body length of around 8m, so shipping at 9m?


12/1/2010 at 4:36pm
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The old enemies of weight and restricted space conspire against caravan designers at every turn.

And adding expensive extras that most people don't want (such as solar panels) isn't the way to go - unless they are optional. Buyers should be able to personalise caravans far more - they are built to order, after all.



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12/1/2010 at 8:13pm
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I suppose the structure of the Pegasus (and therefore the Olympus) is a good idea, but unless they change those stupid little front lockers for a proper full-size front locker, we will never look seriously at one. We have far too much stuff in our front locker (our nose-weight is spot on - no overloading) for those silly little cupboards.


13/1/2010 at 9:47am
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We always liked the Senators, but have ordered a new Pegasus 534.

Our Pageant 7 is only 18 months old, but we were very impressed with the Pegasus and the cost to change was not much so went for it!

Plus I may retire in a couple of years so its worth buying now while we have the income!



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